Morten St George Theory

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There is no denying that the VMS is linked to Europe. We see a Roman bath, a mountaintop castle, a chateau with saddleback roof, and medieval clothing. But, as far as I am aware, there is nothing there that would definitively place the composition of the VMS in the 15th century as opposed to the 13th century. If you know of something, please let us know what it is.

Yes there is. They couldn't have created it in the 13th century. They would have to be wizards with crystal balls, able to see the future.

The zodiac figure styles and themes, and the clothing styles depicted in the VMS, did not exist until the late 14th and 15th centuries.

Styles change. I'm sure you don't wear shoulder-length wigs, codpieces, and ruffled sleeves made of hand-crafted lace. Styles are very important indicators of time periods.

I was thinking the saddleback roofs would have been your best chance, but then I found evidence of them in Switzerland and Belgium for the 12th century.

The clothing looks like classical medieval of the artisan class, so I think you need to be more specific.

The same applies to the zodiac signs which date back to ancient times. It made sense to change Sagittarius which, as a ridiculous mythological creature, would not be credible for potential converts. Meanwhile, let's alter the Scorpion too because it was a creature known to and much feared by potential converts.

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You clearly haven't really looked at these things. I've written a dozen blogs on the evolution of zodiac symbols, posted maps, examples, collected 500 zodiac series, studied them for the last decade. The VMS figure themes ARE VERY SPECIFIC TYPES and do not go back to ancient times or even to early medieval times.

Koen has written about the fashions. I suggest you read his blog.

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The Cathar option was a) stay in Europe and be burned at the stake, or b) take your chances on the open seas. Moreover, being in possession of ancient Greek and Arabic books on geography, they may have had reason to believe there was land on the other side of the ocean.

I'm beginning to feel like you live in a fantasy world.

It DOESN'T MATTER if there is land on the other side of the ocean if you're only halfway across when you run out of food and water.

Plus, even if ships took to the seas, it doesn't mean they got there.


And you never responded to the most important point, which is that they could not have written a book full of 15th-century themes in the 13th century.