Second cloud band in VMs rosettes

[Linda]

Linda,

Do you have a citation for the small black and white illustration you posted? The one where you mention the chair. It seems to be a very strong match with the Oresme illustration, BNF Fr 565 fol. 23.

19. The Earth Pictured as a Sphere by Nicolas d’Oresme, 1377. From reproduction in Santarem’s Atlas  

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i realize one of the examples looks more like the vms examples than the others. i was pointing out that they all show water land civilization, rather than the expected europe africa asia of to maps, and was linking it to the idea that as you say, people use nubuly lines mostly for showing religious icons, which also falls in line with civilization and human history, and how that fell together with my thinking on what it is showing in the rosettes versus quire 13. The latter is more physical, the rosettes more philosophical.



I don't think we will find an example of the second cloudband from anywhere else.

I think it is a construction made up of what we already found to be a likeness. 

To me the rosette cloudbands are not actual clouds, but heavenly indicators of worshipped ideology, or the ideology of worship, if you prefer. It is like they packed up the ancient polytheistic greek and roman mythologies (pairing, parallel, hence double nebuly)  up over to the side and packed the single deity religions together in the middle as one. In doing so it tells a story about the histories of each and the visual link with Oresme brings the sciences into the mix while also reiterating that we are talking about our world and its people. The history of civilization.



That is why i mentioned the historical aspect of the greek chair being included in the painting, it does something similar.