04-12-2018, 10:09 PM
(04-12-2018, 09:39 PM)Morten St. George wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(04-12-2018, 04:34 AM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Janick and Tucker's arguments are not well supported.
I read somewhere that foldout pages (of which there are a few sets in the VMS) were unknown in 15th century Europe. How do you explain that?
That's nonsense. They were uncommon, but they were not unknown. Physician's manuals were sometimes designed as foldouts. Charts and maps were sometimes designed as foldouts (maps sometimes were intended to remain unbound, especially large ones, but some have been bound as foldouts).
Quote:I looked at 14th and 15th manuscripts on Google images and their drawings appear to be much more elegant than what we see in the VMS. Can the poor quality of VMS drawings be found in other 15th century manuscripts?
You "looked" at 14th and 15th manuscripts? I've been STUDYING them for a decade and several people on this forum have been studying them quite a bit longer than that. I don't think "looking" at them is sufficient to understand the depth and breadth of these documents.
Some of the Carthusian manuscripts from the south are extremely professional, but some of the Carthusian manuscripts from remote towns in the north have quite humble but charming drawings. Plus, you can't compare studio and scriptorium-created manuscripts with the VMS. You have to compare the "home-grown" manuscripts (and those that haven't been digitized yet) with the VMS. The nicer manuscripts tend to be digitized and put online first.
Quote:I also noticed that European manuscript drawings of the 14th and 15th centuries displayed many religious and military themes with depictions of the Hundred Years War being particularly frequent. Why do we find virtually nothing on those themes in the VMS?
Do alchemical manuscripts have many religious and military themes? No.
Do math texts have many religious and military themes? No.
Do magic texts have many religious and military themes? Some of them have a few religious references, but they do not tend to have military themes.
Do grammar and foreign-language texts have religious and military themes? No.
Do herbal manuscripts (remember, the VMS is PRIMARILY plants) have religious and military themes? No.
Quote:The VMS has an intricate section on herbal medicine. Why do you think we find no signs of awareness of the Black Death (which killed half the population of Europe in the middle of the 14th century) in the VMS?
How do you know it's herbal medicine? I tend to think it is, but no one has proven that yet. Maybe these are culinary plants or dye plants, or a mixture of all three.
Quote:When you answer these questions, I will prepare another list of questions. Maybe in the end you will come to realize that support for VMS authorship in 15th century Europe is not as strong as you might think.
My experience has been that the more I delve into the VMS, the MORE support I find for 15th-century authorship. The signposts are adding up.

