(01-12-2018, 08:10 PM)Morten St. George wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(01-12-2018, 05:36 PM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Morten, I've created FOUR transcripts of the VMS script. I have looked at EVERY SINGLE glyph in the manuscript many many times and there is nowhere in the manuscript where m is drawn like that or combined like that.
It does not look like m at all (or m combined with long-c). It does look like a normal medieval rotated-m or z. I've looked at THOUSANDS of manuscripts so I'm familiar with what they did and what they didn't do and your idea is quite far outside anything I've seen in the VMS. A few of the glyphs are a bit mangled, but they are not mangled like that. They vary in predictable understandable ways. Your glyph idea simply isn't close enough to reality.
Other than the "c" which is a normal Latin letter, the letters in this word do not look like Voynich glyphs. There IS a possible Voynich glyph in the next word.
I think we are both seeing what we want to see.
So far, I have found the symbol half colored-in in the marginalia of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. but it is fully colored-in on f17r:
It seems you are unable to envision a colored-in eight-figure on the top of your rotated m and my biggest gripe about your viewpoint is that I am unable to detect any separation between the c and the rotated m. This causes me to assume an elongated c which is a VMS symbol and not a Latin letter, and if the elongated c is a symbol then likewise for the following character. Or are you saying that there are two macrons, one connecting the c and the rotated m and another one above the two of them?
Perhaps you have these figures in a better resolution than what I have (which is horrible)? If so, please post it and maybe you can convince me.
It is precisely because I can envision a globbed-in eight figure that I can see the rotated m/z is not EVA-m. Look at your example. It is NOT like the rotated m. The loop goes ABOVE the other letters. You can't ignore this.
And I've already told you it is NORMAL for medieval text to connect a long-cee to the next letter (or symbol). You keep implying that this is something special. It's not; it's a common ligature.
But I also know that EVA would NOT be connected to a cee in this way. You are shifting EVA-m down so that it can connect (and removing the initial loop). This is cheating. Whoever wrote the Voynichese did not do this. When they connected, they connected normally, as one would see in Latin, not in a Mortenesque move-the-letter-down way.


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