(15-09-2018, 03:08 PM)Searcher wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
I looked through a few Latin texts with retained abbreviations. These texts are mostly of the second part of 15 – beginning of 16 centuries.
Lucƺ – often really means lucem or lucum, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (using "4" at the end), in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., for example, eltˉƺ substitutes the word elementum.
Yes. This is what I have repeatedly said (on several threads, including the Sozomeno thread), that it is usually -em, but can also be -um, and I also gave "lucum" as one of the valid interpretations for this example.
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Quote:Notably that the horizontal bar in most cases means the dropped letter “n”, above a last letter – often “m” (coˉcretus- concretus, postoˉs – positionis, nˉ - non, luceˉ - lucem, etc.)
Yes, I have repeatedly said this as well, both on the forum, and on my blogs. I've said it so often I was genuinely worried people might be tired of hearing it.
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Quote:But ƺ stands not only for –um, -em, or, even –m. It can be –et, -it or –ed. For example, sƺ stands for sed, scƺ – for scit, and so on.What is more, ƺ was used as –um and –et in the same text, but in different words. Usually it could be understood due to a sense of a text and construction of a sentence. Lucƺ is not an exclusion, it can mean You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. as much as lucem or lucum. I’m not sure that the same shortened word can be used for two different forms of a real word in the same text. I think scribes usually chose an abbreviation for one of them. Probably, it depends on local traditions and own habits of scribes.
Yes, agreed. There are the more common interpretations, but also individual ones—how it is expanded is known by context (which I've also said about 50 times).
At least we agree.

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Don't mind me, Searcher, your post is a good one. I'm just feeling a bit discouraged. I've written about the "Item" abbreviation about 100 times, maybe more, and posted many examples and then I find out on Nick's blog that the message somehow isn't getting across to the Voynich community. The same seems to be true about many of the other Latin abbreviations I've blogged about, using many examples. I don't know how to make it clearer, plainer. I've posted about the expansion of the macron for n/m over and over, and yet it still doesn't seem to have registered. I've posted about the m and g Latin abbreviations dozens and dozens of times and it's only very recently that the message seems to have been heard.
I almost forgot, you asked about the abbreviation "ƺ" in other languages besides Latin. It's particularly common in medieval Italian. If you look at the Sozomeno thread, you can see in his notebook that he uses it very frequently and this is true of vernacular Italian manuscripts, as well.


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