Greetings, nablator
We already talked a bit on the VMs list.
Your suggestion is interesting, that the upper parts are both land: terra cognita and terra incognita, for example. That would enhance the similarity between the two Oresme illustrations somewhat (BNF Fr. 565 vs BNF Fr. 1082). Otherwise however they are still structurally quite different.
On the other hand, there are a couple other examples of inverted T-O representations of the Earth where the three way, elemental division is more compelling. Air was represented by nebuly lines. However, you are correct in showing that this isn't entirely clear. And the interpretation of VMs labels remains unknown.
My point is that the comparison between Oresme (565) and the VMs cosmos shows a correlation strong enough to support the proposition that the VMs cosmos derives from Oresme, (or at least to support the discussion of that proposition). And it is a comparison based on structure, despite obviously ambiguous and intentional visual differences. Your comparison of the number of undulations, though not mentioned in our discussion, is another example of unexpected structural similarity between the two representations. It was posted shortly after the initial 2014 discovery, but not sure by whom.
Beyond the fact of structural similarity (between VMs & 565), there is the distinct and intentional factor of visual difference. This seems to be a conscious effort to diminish visual similarity - to disguise the connection for any investigator who lacks a good familiarity with both examples. And it also seems to serve as a potential example of the VMs creator's modus operandi for other important illustrations: visual similarities are diminished and disguised, a knowledge of the proper structural and positional confirmations is necessary to make the identification intended by the VMs creator. The same methodology appears too have been employed in the construction of VMs White Aries.
We already talked a bit on the VMs list.
Your suggestion is interesting, that the upper parts are both land: terra cognita and terra incognita, for example. That would enhance the similarity between the two Oresme illustrations somewhat (BNF Fr. 565 vs BNF Fr. 1082). Otherwise however they are still structurally quite different.
On the other hand, there are a couple other examples of inverted T-O representations of the Earth where the three way, elemental division is more compelling. Air was represented by nebuly lines. However, you are correct in showing that this isn't entirely clear. And the interpretation of VMs labels remains unknown.
My point is that the comparison between Oresme (565) and the VMs cosmos shows a correlation strong enough to support the proposition that the VMs cosmos derives from Oresme, (or at least to support the discussion of that proposition). And it is a comparison based on structure, despite obviously ambiguous and intentional visual differences. Your comparison of the number of undulations, though not mentioned in our discussion, is another example of unexpected structural similarity between the two representations. It was posted shortly after the initial 2014 discovery, but not sure by whom.
Beyond the fact of structural similarity (between VMs & 565), there is the distinct and intentional factor of visual difference. This seems to be a conscious effort to diminish visual similarity - to disguise the connection for any investigator who lacks a good familiarity with both examples. And it also seems to serve as a potential example of the VMs creator's modus operandi for other important illustrations: visual similarities are diminished and disguised, a knowledge of the proper structural and positional confirmations is necessary to make the identification intended by the VMs creator. The same methodology appears too have been employed in the construction of VMs White Aries.