Quote:Diane: I guess I don't think so much of 'agreement' as I do of reasoned exposition and explanation by the person concerned.
Diane, do we have to argue over whether the drawings that look like plants are plants?
No, it would be a waste of time. Some are more fanciful but, for the most part, they appear to be plants or inspired by plants and reasoned exposition is not necessary.
Similarly, there are a couple of plants in the VMS for which people mostly agree and there is no way to get "reasoned exposition" for something people simply recognize, like an apple or pear—it's a waste of time to argue about it if only a few people think it's something else.
Most people agree on Viola and what is probably Cannabis and what is probably Ricinus. You might disagree, but that's what most people think they are not because of consensus, but because that's what they look like!
We can agree to disagree until someone can corroborate it with a translation of VMS text or with an exemplar labeled in a readable language, but if that never happens, then arguing over the more obvious IDs is pointless because if the VMS text never gets translated then it's opinion and will never be anything else.