01-03-2016, 05:24 PM
My point is, that comparing links and drawings and details to microscopic level or roots from plant A, seeds from plant C, and curves of the leaves,
counted points on the flowers........come on ! That is useless and a waste of time, in my view.
Also because we can not use a name in ANY language and match it with the accompanied text.
>>The VMS is not a general herbal.
Yes it is. There are many ms with identical drawings. The only problem is: you will have to put on other glasses, to see that!
You wrote a nice comment on the repeating words: look at the letters on the page..wait for it...then you will see....etc.
That is the same here. Take some botanical manuscripts with these drawings and you will see after a couple of hours that they are "main stream" for that period and time.
This is also true for the text: if you have looked at different scripts in the period , let's say 1200-1600 thorough-out Europe, you will quickly recognize writings in different periods. Even the vellum (and the smell of it!) will tell you from where and which period: even the other day i spoke with a curator on that and she agreed with me on that.
Of course, it all depends on specifics and details in the end.
now, i think the herbals are copied. Copied from different manuscripts. and details have been merged together.
I am currently busy with that research and thought that would be nice to discuss. But if you want to talk specific plant details, by all means please go ahead ...the next couple of 25 pages or so.... as I have seen on many many blogs and sites....no problem. But i have seen it leads nowhere.
The page (cicoro) i showed is identical to 2v in my perception. But i understand i am the only one with that belief?
counted points on the flowers........come on ! That is useless and a waste of time, in my view.
Also because we can not use a name in ANY language and match it with the accompanied text.
>>The VMS is not a general herbal.
Yes it is. There are many ms with identical drawings. The only problem is: you will have to put on other glasses, to see that!
You wrote a nice comment on the repeating words: look at the letters on the page..wait for it...then you will see....etc.
That is the same here. Take some botanical manuscripts with these drawings and you will see after a couple of hours that they are "main stream" for that period and time.
This is also true for the text: if you have looked at different scripts in the period , let's say 1200-1600 thorough-out Europe, you will quickly recognize writings in different periods. Even the vellum (and the smell of it!) will tell you from where and which period: even the other day i spoke with a curator on that and she agreed with me on that.
Of course, it all depends on specifics and details in the end.
now, i think the herbals are copied. Copied from different manuscripts. and details have been merged together.
I am currently busy with that research and thought that would be nice to discuss. But if you want to talk specific plant details, by all means please go ahead ...the next couple of 25 pages or so.... as I have seen on many many blogs and sites....no problem. But i have seen it leads nowhere.
The page (cicoro) i showed is identical to 2v in my perception. But i understand i am the only one with that belief?