31-01-2018, 07:45 PM
Rene: the cipher might be one way, in which case perhaps a real text was used as the seed to generate something language-like without meaning. If that were the case, we'd never be able to prove or disprove it though (see Torsten discussions). What I mean is though, that Voynichese being the result of a one-way cipher is not compatible with linguistic solutions like we see proposed here.
Anton: of course if anagramming is done according to certain rules, it can be reverted. Is this what the authors argue? Either way, if we'd use anagramming to explain Voynichese, there would likely be restrictions in place on letter order in the ciphertext - as pointed out before, similar to alphabetic anagramming. Wouldn't this increase the likelihood of information loss as well? And that's not even touching on the combination with abjads.
Marco and Donald: good points, it's not because some things about it are dubious that the whole thing is worthless. I will have a look again at the points you mention.
Anton: of course if anagramming is done according to certain rules, it can be reverted. Is this what the authors argue? Either way, if we'd use anagramming to explain Voynichese, there would likely be restrictions in place on letter order in the ciphertext - as pointed out before, similar to alphabetic anagramming. Wouldn't this increase the likelihood of information loss as well? And that's not even touching on the combination with abjads.
Marco and Donald: good points, it's not because some things about it are dubious that the whole thing is worthless. I will have a look again at the points you mention.


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