Morten St George Theory

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Since you are unable to say when and by whom the Latin names of months were entered in, I fail to see how you can claim that it cannot include the letter v. I see words like "vn" in early publications and that must have come from a handwritten manuscript. Most of all, I think it important that the interpretation of the handwriting be made to comply with word spellings that really existed, which you fail to mention for abirel and abiril. In contrast, abril, abrial and abrival are real words....

I did not write "abirel"---you copied that wrong.

I said "aberil" and "abiril" ("abiril" is less likely than "aberil") and it was quite acceptable to add a vowel to "abril" in the 15th and early 16th centuries (without taking the other month-names into consideration, "Abril" was both Spanish and French and not specifically Catalan).


If you read my message again, you will see that I noted that the writing and abbreviation style were consistent with 15th and very early 16th-century Gothic script. I have looked at thousands of and thousands of samples of this form of writing, have read hundreds of manuscripts in this style in numerous languages, and have collected almost as many samples and nobody who wrote in that style of script wrote "V" that way but many of them wrote "r" exactly as it is written on that label.

Morten St. George:
BTW, by my theories, it is also impossible for these month names to be "handwriting from the 15th and very early 16th centuries" as you claim because during that time frame the VMS lived in Peru. The handwriting is likely post 1584, when it arrived in Europe, though the possibility of written in Peru after 1533 cannot be ruled out.

That is only a theory and I doubt that you have as much experience with 15th century scripts as I have, so I am speaking from experience and you are trying to impose a date on the handwriting based on a hypothesis rather than on direct observation of how it is written.