What is unique or rare about the VM Zodiac signs?
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(09-12-2017, 07:47 PM)Koen Gh. wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Koen Gh. Wrote:
Marco, thanks for this wealth of information. I will try to integrate them into the topic when I have more time.

Some questions:
Do I understand it correctly that the idle crossbowman is a type that's only attested in later documents than the VM? In that case it seems worth adding this to the notes for Sagittarius.


This "idle" feature is something I have never searched for specifically. At the moment, the closest I can think of is the Soisson Sagittarius (an image mentioned by Diane several times).

Quote:I agree with your objection that we shouldn't combine too many variables into one, but I don't think combining two features is exaggerated. Male+female and clothed/nude are two of the most important Gemini properties. If you combine them, you divide the entire set of Geminis into four major groups. If it then turns out, like JKP reports, that the VM's group is the rarest (or the most common, or...) this information seems valuable.

If these things are not actually counted (with numbers and references) how can we know?

Quote:About 'who said what', this information can be added as we go along. I've just been adding the names of the person who reported the trait or who found the parallel, to my best knowledge. Generally I don't want to spend too much time on this since managing the contents of the thread already takes a chunk out of my spare time. I've already asked a handful of people whether they want to help out with this thread and any similar ones but so far there has only been understandable hesitation Smile


Yes, it's a lot of (boring) work. I would appreciate if you wrote somewhere visible that most of the things I contribute were originally posted on the site of Stephen Bax.

Quote:The Aries looking goatlike: would you consider this "rare" or just notable?

"rare" in what context? Christian zodiacs of the XIV and XV Century? World art history of all times? I would say "rare" (in medieval European times), but how meaningful is my feeling?
In particular, I think that Aries is typically represented in such a way that its horns mimic the astrological symbol of the zodiac sign (not parallel, as in the VMS and Morgan M.700). This is easier to check than goat-like / ram-like. I will try to do some counting when I have time. Maybe we should collect a set of these boolean yes/no features, so they can be counted in a batch, going through only once a fixed set of zodiac cycles (then we can say, this occurs x% of the time, in that corpus)?
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RE: What is unique or rare about the VM Zodiac signs? - by MarcoP - 09-12-2017, 08:15 PM

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