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Pastebin claiming to decode Voynich Manuscript - Strategeryist - 06-07-2025
Hello everyone,
I know nothing about voynich or its translation. I randomly found this pastebin on the internet while going down an interesting unrelated rabbit hole. Posting it here because I'm curious if its legitimate or not as I am not an expert in this topic. It was uploaded anonymously on Nov 29 2022 and has only received around 158 views. It was removed March 11, 2025 and is now only available on the wayback machine. In addition to the link, I've also attached the txt file.
The Voynich Manuscript DECODED.txt (Size: 35.48 KB / Downloads: 12)
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Below are some interesting paragraphs from the pastebin.
> One thing the Voynich Group talks about continually is that they believe this manuscript is encoded. Great lengths have been taken to find the code and decipher the words. After having looked over page one of this manuscript, I felt that the group was right in one aspect. It was encoded. But not by the logical method, the mathematical method of encoding they were looking for. It was visually encoded. At least as far as I have gone with it.
> For instance, that word AIN. I thought about the fact that if AIN was Hebrew for the eye, then to visually encode it the author could also write AIIN and AIIIN. Even though on the surface it would logically appear that these variations represented different words, they were all actually the same word, the Hebrew AIN, the eye. When the letter D was added, as DAIN, it represented the construction D'A, the Hebrew word "knowledge", spelled daleth ain. You really have a two letter word, not a four letter word. When he changed 'A (the letter ain) for the Latin letter O, OIIN, it would show the writer was possibly accessing another definition of AIN, such as "to look at." The Latin letter O is derived from the Hebrew letter 'Ain.
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> Line by line updated paraphrase translation of page 1 of the Voynich Manuscript:
Seeing, my friend, as there is power that will prevail \[the power would have to refer to the power of the devastation of the eye\], be wakeful. It is the appointed time of the Eye. Know also that opponents, deniers, have been allowed by men. They are now the head evil faction. All that are precious to them will be killed.
RE: Pastebin claiming to decode Voynich Manuscript - ReneZ - 06-07-2025
It seems hard to write a message that is more suspicious than this one.
I reiterate my advice not to allow new members to post for a while.
RE: Pastebin claiming to decode Voynich Manuscript - Strategeryist - 06-07-2025
(06-07-2025, 01:39 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It seems hard to write a message that is more suspicious than this one.
I reiterate my advice not to allow new members to post for a while.
If you really think its a suspicious link. By all means, go onto the wayback machine home page and manually type in the pastebin link. You don't have to click anything.
RE: Pastebin claiming to decode Voynich Manuscript - nablator - 06-07-2025
Hi,
These are some notes by someone who believes it could be Hebrew (not the first to try), starting with the machine-generated translation that was published in 2018: "She made recommendations to the priest, man of the house and me and people." The thread about Greg Kondrak's research is here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Then there are some speculations, not different from what you get when an LLM (ChatGPT, etc.) interprets EVA phonetically: "AIN. Ain is Hebrew for the "eye" [...] There were also variants of the AIN word, like DAIN and OKAIIN."
It may not be AI slop: humans can hallucinate solutions as well or better than LLMs.
RE: Pastebin claiming to decode Voynich Manuscript - Ruby Novacna - 06-07-2025
James Finn (BigJim) Theory?
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RE: Pastebin claiming to decode Voynich Manuscript - nablator - 06-07-2025
(06-07-2025, 09:57 AM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.James Finn (BigJim) Theory?
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Yes, and other theories copy-pasted from the web, like a page from Edith Sherwood's website starting with:
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RE: Pastebin claiming to decode Voynich Manuscript - Koen G - 06-07-2025
(06-07-2025, 01:39 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It seems hard to write a message that is more suspicious than this one.
I don't think so. The theory is awful, and we, with our collective decades of seeing stuff like this know that it's awful. But regular people google the Voynich manuscript every day and might come across something like this theory, and they have no way to assess it themselves. In that case, asking us about it is a good approach.
Because we can say that any theory that treats the EVA transcription (daiin etc) as if it is Voynichese, should be disregarded automatically.
RE: Pastebin claiming to decode Voynich Manuscript - Strategeryist - 06-07-2025
(06-07-2025, 09:57 AM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.James Finn (BigJim) Theory?
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Interesting....
That's pretty much a copy and paste, but its dated to 2001.
Its possible it might be James Finn's pastebins, the author of the pastebins goes by "Professor J". He has an X account where he also goes by the name Jesse James and claims to be a Cicada3301 solver. No way to know for sure though.
RE: Pastebin claiming to decode Voynich Manuscript - ReneZ - 07-07-2025
(06-07-2025, 10:49 AM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I don't think so. The theory is awful, and we, with our collective decades of seeing stuff like this know that it's awful.
I really meant suspicuous, not awful :-)
When a post starts with "I know nothing about this MS, but..." , I just wonder.