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AI says I my translations work 2024 NOVEMBER - Mike Plet - 23-11-2024
I am super confident that I am well on my way.
This is an extract of my Voynich translation of the first lines:
- Recurring themes: movement, transformation, divine knowledge
- Structural patterns: progression through stages/chambers
- Emphasis on dualities: earthly/divine realms
- Circular narrative: begins with examination, ends with divine truth
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RE: AI says I my translations work 2024 NOVEMBER - Koen G - 23-11-2024
Are you aware of the many limitations of AI? One, they always want to please. Two, last time I checked, ChatGPT couldn't even encode a text using a scrambled substitution cipher.
They are brilliant for some tasks, but probably not the ones you're using them for.
RE: AI says I my translations work 2024 NOVEMBER - argo2001 - 23-11-2024
(23-11-2024, 12:30 AM)Mike Plet Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I am super confident that I am well on my way.I don't believe it's correct, I attempted something similar few months back, got also meaningful texts, but it slowly fell apart the further into the text I went. Also, my AI came up and worked with a Chagatai language - afaik Chagatai is dead language and we don't know much about it, so I doubt AI could work with real Chagatai language - it just made stuff up (as AI LLM usually does)
This is an extract of my Voynich translation of the first lines:
- Recurring themes: movement, transformation, divine knowledge
- Structural patterns: progression through stages/chambers
- Emphasis on dualities: earthly/divine realms
- Circular narrative: begins with examination, ends with divine truth
I
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What astounded me however, was that I was working with the astronomical texts, and the AI somehow knew that it's related to moon and stars. I was working with EVA, and it's possible tho that it somehow got info from the internet forums about Voynich. This could be similar.
RE: AI says I my translations work 2024 NOVEMBER - RobGea - 23-11-2024
Hasn't chatGPT had an upgrade lately? Maybe its leveled up.
RE: AI says I my translations work 2024 NOVEMBER - argo2001 - 23-11-2024
(23-11-2024, 01:21 AM)RobGea Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hasn't chatGPT had an upgrade lately? Maybe its leveled up.I just hammered the keys and forced ChatGPT to translate it. It just can't work - AI makes things up all the time.
RE: AI says I my translations work 2024 NOVEMBER - Bluetoes101 - 23-11-2024
AI agrees with me that Badgers are not real.
I assumed this was "trolling", but either way, Welcome! I encourage you to mooch around the forums and see what works going on
If you are being serious please follow up.. and I'll ask ChatGPT to bring the badgers back
(If we are "for real, for real" though, genuinely, Chat GPT can't read 1 sentence in Latin, please just.. factor this in to your confidence levels)
RE: AI says I my translations work 2024 NOVEMBER - BessAgritianin - 23-11-2024
Sorry Mike,
there is not a single true sentence in this "translation".
I am telling it from a point of view of translating something from this page.
It has nothing to do with the contents of AI.
BR: Vessy
RE: AI says I my translations work 2024 NOVEMBER - RobGea - 23-11-2024
Hi Mike Plet, from your analysis
Quote: CLAUDE AI suggests:
1.Analyze more pages using this method
4.Look for correlations with illustrations
Persuing either or both of those seems like a good idea to see how your analysis stands up.
Your translation of daiin as "religion/faith" could be problematic as daiin occurs consecutively in several places.
RE: AI says I my translations work 2024 NOVEMBER - Ruby Novacna - 23-11-2024
(23-11-2024, 12:30 AM)Mike Plet Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I am super confident that I am well on my way.
Congratulations!
However, I would like to see a more traditional presentation of the results, for example comparing your translation with those of your predecessors.
Unless, of course, you are the first to propose Hebrew, Arabic and Farsi?
RE: AI says I my translations work 2024 NOVEMBER - tavie - 23-11-2024
Hi Mike. Welcome to the forum.
I've added your solution to the forum's You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. Your solution is the 54th to be added to the list, but the list only includes those discussed on the forum since its birth in 2016. The total number doesn't include solutions prior to that; or solutions since but which haven't been mentioned on the forum; or where the language is utterly unclear. So there are actually many more solutions out there than 54, likely more than double.
You will see on that list that we have already had one Arabic solution, and four Hebrew solutions. I would strongly advise you to browse through the discussions of the solutions to see the common themes of where they all went wrong. You will notice that pretty much everyone is certain that they have solved it.
I would also highly recommend Koen's ongoing video series of "Why your Voynich solution is wrong":
- Part 1: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
- Part 2: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.