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RE: Foil116v -An Ancient Recipe (updated) - RobGea - 07-02-2025
As it is your theory, the onus is on you to explain the post-1492 plants and pre-1492 vellum contradiction.
You state in post#20 that the explanation can be found in the first folio, could you please provide some more details,
as none of this information is in your presentation.
Also as noted in post#3 your presentation has no introduction.
RE: Foil116v -An Ancient Recipe (updated) - Ruby Novacna - 07-02-2025
(07-02-2025, 06:18 PM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In this case we need to delete all other exotic plants in the script, because they are contradiction to C14 test?
Bess, what exotic (or non-exotic) plants have already been identified in the script?
RE: Foil116v -An Ancient Recipe (updated) - BessAgritianin - 08-02-2025
(07-02-2025, 08:27 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There are studies and books, written on the topic.(07-02-2025, 06:18 PM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In this case we need to delete all other exotic plants in the script, because they are contradiction to C14 test?
Bess, what exotic (or non-exotic) plants have already been identified in the script?
But for first, just look at -https://www.voynich.nu/extra/herb_oldid.html
RE: Foil116v -An Ancient Recipe (updated) - ReneZ - 08-02-2025
I see no good reason to think that any of the plants in the Voynich MS are 'exotic'.
Note that there are herbs in well-known herbals from the 15th century that one should call 'exotic', but these were indeed known in or near Europe.
RE: Foil116v -An Ancient Recipe (updated) - Ruby Novacna - 08-02-2025
(08-02-2025, 04:25 AM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There are studies and books, written on the topic.
But for first, just look at -https://www.voynich.nu/extra/herb_oldid.html
These are the proposals for identification from the images and not from the script.
As for the studies and books, which, by the way, you do not cite, I am not aware that there is an identification from the script that would be unanimously accepted at present.
RE: Foil116v -An Ancient Recipe (updated) - Aga Tentakulus - 08-02-2025
@ BessAgritianin
Sometimes chance plays a trick.
As it happens, the specialist for voynich - czechich (Prof Joseph) has just contacted Nick again. Why don't you ask him?
PS: I'm getting too old for this shit
RE: Foil116v -An Ancient Recipe (updated) - BessAgritianin - 09-02-2025
(08-02-2025, 01:05 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(08-02-2025, 04:25 AM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There are studies and books, written on the topic.
But for first, just look at -https://www.voynich.nu/extra/herb_oldid.html
These are the proposals for identification from the images and not from the script.
As for the studies and books, which, by the way, you do not cite, I am not aware that there is an identification from the script that would be unanimously accepted at present.
I will provide only one example -Q5f33v. It was much disputed and definitely recognized as sunflower.
How is it agreed upon C14 test?
About the books - there was a book published a year, or two ago by two botanists with the recognition of the plants, I read the available pages from it, but did not buy it.
There there were pretty good findings I think.
Sorry I do not have the title now, but if I recall it will let you know.
RE: Foil116v -An Ancient Recipe (updated) - BessAgritianin - 09-02-2025
(08-02-2025, 09:51 PM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@ BessAgritianinWhat are you talking about?
Sometimes chance plays a trick.
As it happens, the specialist for voynich - czechich (Prof Joseph) has just contacted Nick again. Why don't you ask him?
PS: I'm getting too old for this shit
Who is prof. Joseph? Can you connect me with him? I would love to work with the Czech group, which is dealing with Voynich research. Does he have an account in this blog?
Remember- I am not with Czech origins. I know the language from being a student there.
I am getting too old too. Tomorrow maybe I am not alive, then all I know will go with me.
Enjoy
RE: Foil116v -An Ancient Recipe (updated) - BessAgritianin - 09-02-2025
(05-02-2025, 05:56 PM)Rafal Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.First you read the lettters in some very non natural way.Here is some other document, which proves my correct readings of "dobav" and in "jasmich", desputed by German group- "g" as "j".
Then you do:
"dabav" is "dobat"
"ola" is "oleja"
In the attachment you see a medieval religious document retelling the story of how Saul's daughter laughed at David for his devotion to God.
The document is available in internet archive as "Pisemnictvi Ceske"- "Czech writing".
On this document one can see also, how "M" was written- which is also the same "M", which I suppose stands for Mercury in 116V.
RE: Foil116v -An Ancient Recipe (updated) - Ruby Novacna - 09-02-2025
(09-02-2025, 04:43 AM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I will provide only one example -Q5f33v. It was much disputed and definitely recognized as sunflower.
How is it agreed upon C14 test?
About the books - there was a book published a year, or two ago by two botanists with the recognition of the plants, I read the available pages from it, but did not buy it.
There there were pretty good findings I think.
Sorry I do not have the title now, but if I recall it will let you know.
Bess, you are aware that for each statement you must cite the references, it is not my personal whim, it are the rules of the game. If you assert that pi = 3.14, you are not obliged to cite the author, because it is universally known, but when you assert that a plant of the VM was "definitively" recognized as a sunflower, I expect a reference.
P.S. However, I understand well, that it is possible, that the meaning that you give to the word "script", is different from that of Google translate, otherwise it would be a dialogue of the deaf.