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RE: f17r - Searcher - 25-08-2017
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RE: f17r - Searcher - 25-08-2017
... or just Garlic
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Alium ampeloprasum
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RE: f17r - Anton - 25-08-2017
Quote:But from what I see they usually have this "bud" under the flower
Good point.
Quote:Its buds remind me You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
From the perspective of leaves mnemonics, that's not bad, because it is basically attested as "Schnitt-"lauch (Sniteloc etc.)
The problem is that the real plant does not look in this way at all, root included. And the eye is left unexplained.
Overall, not bad: we already have three options:
- centaurea cyanus (usage mnemonic in the root, more or less similar flowers, except the bud)
- oculus christi (direct imagery match, name mnemonic in the root, but the real plant is uncertain, for the violet colour)
- allium scoenoprasum (name mnemonic in the leaves, similar flowers, but otherwise the look is different)
RE: f17r - Koen G - 25-08-2017
Allium cepa does make your eyes water
RE: f17r - Anton - 25-08-2017
Yes I thought of that, but as I guess this schoenoprasum is more like garlic which is not tear-producing.
RE: f17r - Searcher - 25-08-2017
Do you remember You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.?
For a stye on the eye
“Take equal amounts of onion/leek [there is still debate about whether ‘cropleek’, as stated in the original recipe, in Bald’s Leechbook, is equivalent to an onion or leek today] and garlic, and pound them well together. Take equal amounts of wine and bull’s gall and mix them with the onion and garlic. Put the mixture in a brass bowl and let it stand for nine nights, then strain it through a cloth. Then, about night-time, apply it to the eye with a feather.”
RE: f17r - Koen G - 25-08-2017
That's interesting, searcher. Apparently a combination of alliums was really used against the exact type of infection we're talking about. I still don't feel too comfortable about the arrangement of the leaves though.
RE: f17r - -JKP- - 25-08-2017
My thoughts (from a while back) on this plant:
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I haven't read through this thread yet (very busy right now), so I don't know if it's a repeat of what others are saying, but I'll try to read everyone's ideas later this evening when I have a free moment.
RE: f17r - Anton - 25-08-2017
(25-08-2017, 11:36 PM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.My thoughts (from a while back) on this plant:
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I haven't read through this thread yet (very busy right now), so I don't know if it's a repeat of what others are saying, but I'll try to read everyone's ideas later this evening when I have a free moment.
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RE: f17r - Ruby Novacna - 26-08-2017
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