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Use of "ee" in Q2-3 is weird(?) - Bluetoes101 - 21-05-2026
Voynich is weird and grass is green etc..
But, a run of 14 pages (f13r to f19v) where the writer alternates between using and never using something as common as ee seems odd
A hint at method to the madness? Apophenia? Go to bed Bluetoes?
RE: Use of "ee" in Q2-3 is weird(?) - RobGea - 22-05-2026
This is why studying the Voynich is awesome, one can find a pattern like this, study it, think about it, play with it and then realize one has absolutely no idea what it means.
Anyway, Nice find !
RE: Use of "ee" in Q2-3 is weird(?) - JoJo_Jost - 22-05-2026
It's easy to explain, but that doesn't mean the explanation is correct!
When he works with different cipher tables that keep changing, something like this is the result.
RE: Use of "ee" in Q2-3 is weird(?) - JoJo_Jost - 22-05-2026
Deleted: There was a mistake in it.
RE: Use of "ee" in Q2-3 is weird(?) - Ruby Novacna - 22-05-2026
Same scribe and same language?
RE: Use of "ee" in Q2-3 is weird(?) - Koen G - 22-05-2026
Some pages are completely yellow with "cc" words though. It feels to me like the biggest difference is between being full of cc compared to having 0, 1 or2.
Something like the ratio of tokens containing "cc" vs total tokens might be more illuminating.
RE: Use of "ee" in Q2-3 is weird(?) - dashstofsk - 22-05-2026
There are only 17 occurrences of ee in quire 2. Their distribution is within the bounds of statistical acceptability. In quire 3 ( 78 occurrences ) the distribution is ~7.5 standard deviations away from would be expected if the words of that quire were distributed randomly. But you also get much the same with eo. And also with words ending y. See the attached simulations output.
But this is not unusual. Many similar distributions of many other parameters in many other sections of the manuscript all show a similar property of being outside the bounds of what would be expected.
( Data from GC transliteration. Paragraph text only. No labels, circulars, radials, nor any 'Pb' text, and with characters 101-C converted to ee ).
GC_20260522_114936.pdf (Size: 46.77 KB / Downloads: 9)
RE: Use of "ee" in Q2-3 is weird(?) - nablator - 22-05-2026
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Q2:
9r 1
9v 2
10r 0
10v 2
11r 0
11v 1
13r 1
13v 0
14r 3
14v 0
15r 1
15v 0
16r 3
16v 0
Q3:
17r 0 (or 1 with marginalia)
17v 17 (one of them is a weird e'e)
18r 0
18v 1
19r 0
19v 1
20r 11
20v 0
21r 9
21v 3
22r 1
22v 0
23r 2
23v 5
24r 9
24v 4
RE: Use of "ee" in Q2-3 is weird(?) - davidma - 22-05-2026
(22-05-2026, 12:28 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.From You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.:
Q2:
9r 1
9v 2
10r 0
10v 2
11r 0
11v 1
13r 1
13v 0
14r 3
14v 0
15r 1
15v 0
16r 3
16v 0
Q3:
17r 0 (or 1 with marginalia)
17v 17 (one of them is a weird e'e)
18r 0
18v 1
19r 0
19v 1
20r 11
20v 0
21r 9
21v 3
22r 1
22v 0
23r 2
23v 5
24r 9
24v 4
Really striking when you see it this way. Any other bigrams for which this holds true? Since nothing is easy in the VM i think not but maybe there's a pattern.
RE: Use of "ee" in Q2-3 is weird(?) - Dunsel - 22-05-2026
Normalized heatmap of ee as a midfix