The Voynich Ninja

(01-11-2025, 10:17 PM)ZamnaMx Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

(01-11-2025, 09:55 PM)Kaybo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think its interesting and I would love to see your work when its published. However, its a bit unclear what you want from this forum? If you do not want to share any information with us, how could anyone here help you? Since you are not a scientist in this field, why do you care about a journal publication? Theses journals are just useful in academia, if you are not in this world why you need the reputation of such journals? You could just upload your manuscript to arxiv or similar sites, put it on instagram, youtube or whatever if you think someone could steel your work. When you already patented your translation method, why you do not want to share it here? 

Some points I am interested in: The old language you are talking about, is there any evidence it existed? Are there any translations for that? Or is it a forgotten language that you translate into Spanish and English?

It’s a historical fact — that’s how scholars worked in the 14th and 15th centuries and well.. always, even now. 
They used private or restricted languages to control the transmission of knowledge.
It wasn’t “totally secret,” just a linguistic system with specialized or coded vocabulary, so that only those with the proper education could read and understand it.
Alchemists, masons, and other learned circles used the same principle.

But the question is were do you got the proper education from that you can read it? There need to be a reference point? Do I understand right, that you get it from a historical analysis? 

tn ega IA na era uoy ekil tib a sdnuoS

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(01-11-2025, 09:55 PM)Kaybo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think its interesting and I would love to see your work when its published. However, its a bit unclear what you want from this forum? If you do not want to share any information with us, how could anyone here help you? Since you are not a scientist in this field, why do you care about a journal publication? Theses journals are just useful in academia, if you are not in this world why you need the reputation of such journals? You could just upload your manuscript to arxiv or similar sites, put it on instagram, youtube or whatever if you think someone could steel your work. When you already patented your translation method, why you do not want to share it here? 

Some points I am interested in: The old language you are talking about, is there any evidence it existed? Are there any translations for that? Or is it a forgotten language that you translate into Spanish and English?

It’s a historical fact — that’s how scholars worked in the 14th and 15th centuries and well.. always, even now. 
They used private or restricted languages to control the transmission of knowledge.
It wasn’t “totally secret,” just a linguistic system with specialized or coded vocabulary, so that only those with the proper education could read and understand it.
Alchemists, masons, and other learned circles used the same principle.

But the question is were do you got the proper education from that you can read it? There need to be a reference point? Do I understand right, that you get it from a historical analysis? 

tn ega IA na era uoy ekil tib a sdnuoS

I’m an engineer and inventor with more than eighty registered patents.
My family owned one of the largest esoteric bookshops in our region, so I grew up reading unusual and ancient texts from an early age.
As I explained before — and I see this may be difficult for you to understand — I didn’t make a translation in the usual sense; I created a methodological system for translation.
Regarding AI: Yale, Oxford, NASA, and all serious research institutions use artificial intelligence because it’s impossible to manage such large amounts of data manually. 
But professionals don’t use AI to translate; they use it to organize, classify, and analyze data.
i see lot of Ai garbage around here, because use the tools for the wrong purposes.

I’ve already shared extremely specific and unique information, yet the focus seems to be on trying to disqualify me. It looks like some people here are not truly interested in the Voynich, which is unfortunate and disrespectful, especially when I’m sharing highly relevant information.
That’s exactly why serious researchers often avoid publishing their work on forums.
What I’m looking for is an academic connection to refine the methodology.
The methodology is what translates the text, not a person.
It’s about creating a structure and a process that anyone can reproduce.
That’s what makes it science applied to the Voynich, not speculation.
If you don’t understand what a methodological process is, it’s hard to translate anything.
I don’t see much methodology around the Voynich — just ideas and theories.
To solve any problem, you need a plan — a methodology.

Basically you have been 'friendzoned' by Yale and now you're here looking for academic contacts.

(01-11-2025, 11:14 PM)ZamnaMx Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

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(01-11-2025, 09:55 PM)Kaybo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think its interesting and I would love to see your work when its published. However, its a bit unclear what you want from this forum? If you do not want to share any information with us, how could anyone here help you? Since you are not a scientist in this field, why do you care about a journal publication? Theses journals are just useful in academia, if you are not in this world why you need the reputation of such journals? You could just upload your manuscript to arxiv or similar sites, put it on instagram, youtube or whatever if you think someone could steel your work. When you already patented your translation method, why you do not want to share it here? 

Some points I am interested in: The old language you are talking about, is there any evidence it existed? Are there any translations for that? Or is it a forgotten language that you translate into Spanish and English?

It’s a historical fact — that’s how scholars worked in the 14th and 15th centuries and well.. always, even now. 
They used private or restricted languages to control the transmission of knowledge.
It wasn’t “totally secret,” just a linguistic system with specialized or coded vocabulary, so that only those with the proper education could read and understand it.
Alchemists, masons, and other learned circles used the same principle.

But the question is were do you got the proper education from that you can read it? There need to be a reference point? Do I understand right, that you get it from a historical analysis? 

tn ega IA na era uoy ekil tib a sdnuoS

I’m an engineer and inventor with more than eighty registered patents.
My family owned one of the largest esoteric bookshops in our region, so I grew up reading unusual and ancient texts from an early age.
As I explained before — and I see this may be difficult for you to understand — I didn’t make a translation in the usual sense; I created a methodological system for translation.
Regarding AI: Yale, Oxford, NASA, and all serious research institutions use artificial intelligence because it’s impossible to manage such large amounts of data manually. 
But professionals don’t use AI to translate; they use it to organize, classify, and analyze data.
i see lot of Ai garbage around here, because use the tools for the wrong purposes.

I’ve already shared extremely specific and unique information, yet the focus seems to be on trying to disqualify me. It looks like some people here are not truly interested in the Voynich, which is unfortunate and disrespectful, especially when I’m sharing highly relevant information.
That’s exactly why serious researchers often avoid publishing their work on forums.
What I’m looking for is an academic connection to refine the methodology.
The methodology is what translates the text, not a person.
It’s about creating a structure and a process that anyone can reproduce.
That’s what makes it science applied to the Voynich, not speculation.
If you don’t understand what a methodological process is, it’s hard to translate anything.
I don’t see much methodology around the Voynich — just ideas and theories.
To solve any problem, you need a plan — a methodology.

Ok, I understand, you have a methodology you want to keep secret and you came here to find some academic contacts. I am an academic ;-) Anyway, I hope you will find someone soon, so we see your methodology in action. I am interested.

(01-11-2025, 07:18 PM)ZamnaMx Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Online communities are often aggressive toward outsiders, and this one seems no different.

I've been here for many years now, and I can say with confidence that this is not true.

New people are welcome. Posts from new people are read with an attempt to understand them.

Criticism is not agression, and when new posters ignore feedback, or cannot accept that there is criticism in the first place, then the critcism becomes more specific.

Then there is one specific Voynich MS aspect:

when someone comes here with an announcement to have the translation of the text, or some major breakthrough, then the reaction here is not: "Yes, great! Finally!"
Not at all.
It is more like: "What is it this time?"

That will be disappointing.

Not showing any details will also not help.

(Yesterday, 12:19 AM)Kaybo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

(01-11-2025, 11:14 PM)ZamnaMx Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

(01-11-2025, 10:56 PM)Kaybo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

(01-11-2025, 10:17 PM)ZamnaMx Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

(01-11-2025, 09:55 PM)Kaybo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think its interesting and I would love to see your work when its published. However, its a bit unclear what you want from this forum? If you do not want to share any information with us, how could anyone here help you? Since you are not a scientist in this field, why do you care about a journal publication? Theses journals are just useful in academia, if you are not in this world why you need the reputation of such journals? You could just upload your manuscript to arxiv or similar sites, put it on instagram, youtube or whatever if you think someone could steel your work. When you already patented your translation method, why you do not want to share it here? 

Some points I am interested in: The old language you are talking about, is there any evidence it existed? Are there any translations for that? Or is it a forgotten language that you translate into Spanish and English?

It’s a historical fact — that’s how scholars worked in the 14th and 15th centuries and well.. always, even now. 
They used private or restricted languages to control the transmission of knowledge.
It wasn’t “totally secret,” just a linguistic system with specialized or coded vocabulary, so that only those with the proper education could read and understand it.
Alchemists, masons, and other learned circles used the same principle.

i am learn
But the question is were do you got the proper education from that you can read it? There need to be a reference point? Do I understand right, that you get it from a historical analysis? 

tn ega IA na era uoy ekil tib a sdnuoS

I’m an engineer and inventor with more than eighty registered patents.
My family owned one of the largest esoteric bookshops in our region, so I grew up reading unusual and ancient texts from an early age.
As I explained before — and I see this may be difficult for you to understand — I didn’t make a translation in the usual sense; I created a methodological system for translation.
Regarding AI: Yale, Oxford, NASA, and all serious research institutions use artificial intelligence because it’s impossible to manage such large amounts of data manually. 
But professionals don’t use AI to translate; they use it to organize, classify, and analyze data.
i see lot of Ai garbage around here, because use the tools for the wrong purposes.

I’ve already shared extremely specific and unique information, yet the focus seems to be on trying to disqualify me. It looks like some people here are not truly interested in the Voynich, which is unfortunate and disrespectful, especially when I’m sharing highly relevant information.
That’s exactly why serious researchers often avoid publishing their work on forums.
What I’m looking for is an academic connection to refine the methodology.
The methodology is what translates the text, not a person.
It’s about creating a structure and a process that anyone can reproduce.
That’s what makes it science applied to the Voynich, not speculation.
If you don’t understand what a methodological process is, it’s hard to translate anything.
I don’t see much methodology around the Voynich — just ideas and theories.
To solve any problem, you need a plan — a methodology.

Ok, I understand, you have a methodology you want to keep secret and you came here to find some academic contacts. I am an academic ;-) Anyway, I hope you will find someone soon, so we see your methodology in action. I am interested.

i dont want to keep secret, is a methological patented and registered and i am doing presentations  but not obviously in a forum because is pointless. i am discussiong with people that can understand about what i am talking.
i can just unload here everything. even i has been very open explaining some stuff, but looks like nobody notice

have a methodology is relevant, is a valuable work, is time and effort. 
i want to publish not only the translation and a modern version

i am interested in to publish novels related to who wrote, ahy, in what context.
so i am looking for an acaemic that can help to improve the material to publish

i found some candidates but maybe arenot the right choice...

i have a lot of material researched about
i am researching now, about how to publish and review

(Yesterday, 12:19 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

(01-11-2025, 07:18 PM)ZamnaMx Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Online communities are often aggressive toward outsiders, and this one seems no different.

I've been here for many years now, and I can say with confidence that this is not true.

New people are welcome. Posts from new people are read with an attempt to understand them.

Criticism is not agression, and when new posters ignore feedback, or cannot accept that there is criticism in the first place, then the critcism becomes more specific.

Then there is one specific Voynich MS aspect:

when someone comes here with an announcement to have the translation of the text, or some major breakthrough, then the reaction here is not: "Yes, great! Finally!"
Not at all.
It is more like: "What is it this time?"

That will be disappointing.

Not showing any details will also not help.

Well, that’s not really the case.
If you read carefully, I’ve been very open and friendly, even when people immediately started to disqualify me simply because I posted here.
I didn’t post in the “theories” section; I chose the area meant to be for  open talk and not limited to specific research topics.
If some people don’t understand their own forum rules, that’s not my fault.
I even shared some extremely important answers to ancient enigmas, yet the focus has been only on discussing me and my post instead of the content.
It’s a bit funny, honestly.

and read carefully, i did explained 3 relevant secrets.

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(Yesterday, 12:06 AM)RobGea Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Basically you have been 'friendzoned' by Yale and now you're here looking for academic contacts.

very mature post, i am impressed your deep voynich knowledge.

We'll make sure to tell the next "It's a symbolic language" solver to pay you patent royalties...
damn why didn't I think of that...

(Yesterday, 01:03 AM)RadioFM Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.We'll make sure to tell the next "It's a symbolic language" solver to pay you patent royalties...
damn why didn't I think of that...

patent is for a metodological process because can be used for othe reasearches.

when you work and create something important, yo must to patent, is a basic inventors and smart people rules, so corporations cant apropiate your work, problem is not people problem is corporations.

(Yesterday, 12:35 AM)ZamnaMx Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

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(01-11-2025, 11:14 PM)ZamnaMx Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

(01-11-2025, 10:56 PM)Kaybo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

(01-11-2025, 10:17 PM)ZamnaMx Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It’s a historical fact — that’s how scholars worked in the 14th and 15th centuries and well.. always, even now. 
They used private or restricted languages to control the transmission of knowledge.
It wasn’t “totally secret,” just a linguistic system with specialized or coded vocabulary, so that only those with the proper education could read and understand it.
Alchemists, masons, and other learned circles used the same principle.

i am learn
But the question is were do you got the proper education from that you can read it? There need to be a reference point? Do I understand right, that you get it from a historical analysis? 

tn ega IA na era uoy ekil tib a sdnuoS

I’m an engineer and inventor with more than eighty registered patents.
My family owned one of the largest esoteric bookshops in our region, so I grew up reading unusual and ancient texts from an early age.
As I explained before — and I see this may be difficult for you to understand — I didn’t make a translation in the usual sense; I created a methodological system for translation.
Regarding AI: Yale, Oxford, NASA, and all serious research institutions use artificial intelligence because it’s impossible to manage such large amounts of data manually. 
But professionals don’t use AI to translate; they use it to organize, classify, and analyze data.
i see lot of Ai garbage around here, because use the tools for the wrong purposes.

I’ve already shared extremely specific and unique information, yet the focus seems to be on trying to disqualify me. It looks like some people here are not truly interested in the Voynich, which is unfortunate and disrespectful, especially when I’m sharing highly relevant information.
That’s exactly why serious researchers often avoid publishing their work on forums.
What I’m looking for is an academic connection to refine the methodology.
The methodology is what translates the text, not a person.
It’s about creating a structure and a process that anyone can reproduce.
That’s what makes it science applied to the Voynich, not speculation.
If you don’t understand what a methodological process is, it’s hard to translate anything.
I don’t see much methodology around the Voynich — just ideas and theories.
To solve any problem, you need a plan — a methodology.

Ok, I understand, you have a methodology you want to keep secret and you came here to find some academic contacts. I am an academic ;-) Anyway, I hope you will find someone soon, so we see your methodology in action. I am interested.

i dont want to keep secret, is a methological patented and registered and i am doing presentations  but not obviously in a forum because is pointless. i am discussiong with people that can understand about what i am talking.
i can just unload here everything. even i has been very open explaining some stuff, but looks like nobody notice

have a methodology is relevant, is a valuable work, is time and effort. 
i want to publish not only the translation and a modern version

i am interested in to publish novels related to who wrote, ahy, in what context.
so i am looking for an acaemic that can help to improve the material to publish

i found some candidates but maybe arenot the right choice...

i have a lot of material researched about
i am researching now, about how to publish and review

Why do you think its pointless? Do you think nobody would understand it here? Is that not a bit rude? You could at least try? I think if nobody here will understand it, nobody in the world will understand it.