(08-11-2025, 09:58 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.fillet-type of headband - perhaps a coronet or circlet of some kind. There are a number of such images in the codex
There are indeed a number of "scalloped diadems" or "showercaps" in the Zodiac and Bio pages, but (like the crown of f72v1) they are mostly (if not all) in the dark ink of the Boobs Retracer. In the original illustrations, the nymphs generally were bare-headed or wore "commoner" hats, rather than diadems or crowns.
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The *celestial faces* are the faces on the sun and moon (and perhaps VMs planets?), mainly in Quire 9, with a few in Q 10 and two stragglers [f85r2 & f86v4].
The matter involves VMs f67v1, which shows a solar face, a whole head actually, and it has a blue headband, thin and plain. So, where does that come from? From a perspective {pre-1500}, where does the depiction of a solar head/face occur *with* a plain headband? Examples from historical depictions have been quite few so far. Perhaps it is an indicator of another creative anachronism.
There is a second VMs example - no color - f68v1
Pairing is a trait with significance in other VMs artistry.
(10-11-2025, 09:26 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The matter involves VMs f67v1, which shows a solar face, a whole head actually, and it has a blue headband, thin and plain. There is a second VMs example - no color - f68v1
Beware that all color paint is very likely (for me, almost certainly) a very late addition, applied rather crudely without regard for the meaning of the figures. Like by a child.
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Not really what we are looking for, but a very strange sun (I'm a little bit scared of it..)
1250–1275 - England
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Illustrations of headbands in medieval sources are uncommon. The question remains, where did the VMs artist get the idea?
Here is an illustration with the best provenance so far. The
Belles Heures of Jean de Berry, Paris, 1405-1408.
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Yes, yes, I know. Another manuscript from the Berry library.
Behold, a veritable plethora of headband representations. - - Well, sort of.
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Several of these are pretty good, but the examples with helms and crowns are unclear. The example of the torse is a possibility. However, heraldic use depends on color, and the illustrated examples are all white.
All "1410" examples come from a single source. BGE Ms. fr. 190/1
This was the Duke of Berry's copy of
Des cas des noble hommes et femmes.
Another potential connection to the Berry library.
All "1410-1414" examples come from BL Harley 4431.
The Book of the Queen.
Previously cited regarding the half-arcaded pool with nine Muses.
Of all the various sources, the majority are from Paris and early in the 15th C.
The last example is clearly a headband. A character from many illustrations in UBH Cod. Pal. germ. 339.
Parzival. If that is not sufficient to impart the idea of a headband, what is?
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