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Unfortunately, no, I have no suggestions regarding vocabulary and "meaning". What I see is a structural pattern created by the repetition of vords in the segment. So, any translation should also have these repetitions. And there might be something historical that is similarly repetitive.
Also, the selection of glyphs used in this segment seems to be somewhat restricted and corresponds primarily with the first part of the 4 x 17 sequence of f57v, which is itself open to three methods of interpretation.
(08-04-2022, 06:20 PM)Juan_Sali Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is a sample of my researh, the starting of f6r, plant identified as Cannabis:
I agree with you that a good interpretation of the images can help in understanding the text. However, do you think that the plant in 6r looks like cannabis? What is the basis for your identification?
(08-04-2022, 07:54 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (08-04-2022, 06:20 PM)Juan_Sali Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is a sample of my researh, the starting of f6r, plant identified as Cannabis:
I agree with you that a good interpretation of the images can help in understanding the text. However, do you think that the plant in 6r looks like cannabis? What is the basis for your identification?
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Cannabis was already detected on another folio ( You are not allowed to view links.
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The text analysis here is quite detailed.
"The Cannabis Page of the Voynich Manuscript"
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(08-04-2022, 07:54 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.However, do you think that the plant in 6r looks like cannabis? What is the basis for your identification?
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Login to view. . However, it is generally accepted that the castor oil plant is a much better match for this plant.
(08-04-2022, 08:07 PM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Cannabis was already detected on another folio ( You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. ) The text analysis here is quite detailed.
"The Cannabis Page of the Voynich Manuscript"
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Thanks for your comment, I can avoid making mistakes
. I retire the part of the plant identification.
(08-04-2022, 09:59 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.it is generally accepted that the castor oil plant
I am sure that the 6v plant is Echinops.
(08-04-2022, 11:11 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I am sure that the 6v plant is Echinops.
That's not bad either. And a beautiful plant, I was not familiar with it. Just look at the leaves on the castor oil plant though, and the spikiness of the fruits. There are also similar illustrations in other Mss, see for example here: You are not allowed to view links.
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Well, there's the problem plain and simple. I just don't see any correspondence between the VMs glyphs and the proposed alphabetic letter choices. It seems like too much of a forced fitting, but the "story" is amazing. Why stop there??
Is this another example of an ivory-tower theory imposed by the researcher(s)? Something handed to you ready-made.
On the other hand, there is the possibility of progress built on consensus. If it can be considered that marked and designated segments of circular text possess innate significance, then what should be done to investigate those possibilities?
Circular segments are clearly marked in many instances, in the zodiac, the rosettes, the wreath, even in the cosmos. Is there a reason that the marking patterns were employed? A simple dot or line would serve as a marker, but these are far more elaborate.
There is a collection of individuals in the ninja forum with knowledge and talents far beyond mine. Should investigators run off to their towers and hope to come back with a theory? Is it possible to build on individual contributions of what should be done, and why, and how? Conversation enables the proliferation of ideas.
(09-04-2022, 12:22 AM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I just don't see any correspondence between the VMs glyphs and the proposed alphabetic letter choices.
Perhaps this link may make things clearer:
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