25-05-2024, 11:04 AM
Yes the RC dating effectively immediately dismissed a large set of theories like modern forgery, Roger Bacon, Leonardo da Vinci etc (or at least made those theories problematic).
Of course I won't undertake estimating them qualitatively, but given that the VMS is not uniform neither in terms of content nor in the terms of text characteristics, the order of creation and the respective time span is definitely worth investigating.
That's what I have in mind, the professional life, perhaps something like 1.5 professional lives (like father and sons).
This is true, but this just suggests that one should not expect large deviations of the "true" dating from the estimated dating. The flaw is in that (potentially) different objects (quires) are being dated as a single object (book). Like, if during an excavation, you find a book and then you sample different pages for a combined estimation to date the book, that's correct. But if you find a chest and therein you discover a book, a pen and a fan and you sample all of them for a combined estimation of the group of objects, that's entirely flawed because the chest was made 200 years ago when the treasure was buried, and the owner put there a 300 yo book, a 400 yo pen and a 1000 yo fan. Of course this is not directly applicable to the VMS (I agree that drastic age differences between different quires are not supported by non-RC dating methods), but I just want to explain the logic of the methodology. If they decided (and were allowed) to sample each thematic section instead of taking three samples from one and the same section (Herbal), that would have been a better choice, in my opinion.
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Of course I won't undertake estimating them qualitatively, but given that the VMS is not uniform neither in terms of content nor in the terms of text characteristics, the order of creation and the respective time span is definitely worth investigating.
(24-05-2024, 11:44 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.1404-1438 is probably comparable to a typical 15th C person's professional life
That's what I have in mind, the professional life, perhaps something like 1.5 professional lives (like father and sons).
(24-05-2024, 11:44 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.this is especially true since this 'slight' deviation isn't a deviation at all, as all samples are within each other's 1-sigma error boundary.
This is true, but this just suggests that one should not expect large deviations of the "true" dating from the estimated dating. The flaw is in that (potentially) different objects (quires) are being dated as a single object (book). Like, if during an excavation, you find a book and then you sample different pages for a combined estimation to date the book, that's correct. But if you find a chest and therein you discover a book, a pen and a fan and you sample all of them for a combined estimation of the group of objects, that's entirely flawed because the chest was made 200 years ago when the treasure was buried, and the owner put there a 300 yo book, a 400 yo pen and a 1000 yo fan. Of course this is not directly applicable to the VMS (I agree that drastic age differences between different quires are not supported by non-RC dating methods), but I just want to explain the logic of the methodology. If they decided (and were allowed) to sample each thematic section instead of taking three samples from one and the same section (Herbal), that would have been a better choice, in my opinion.
