The Voynich Ninja

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The first sequence of 17 letters is different from others. Between the last 2 symbols there is a "two dots" (column) sign. Enhancing the image it is very clear visible and  seems to be intentionally written. In this case it is a 18 symbols sequence.



 This rise some questions:
1. Why this sign is only there? The omission in the next sequences was intentionally  or by mistake?
2. What it means? It is the same meaning as in other abbreviated manuscripts?
3. Since EVA "y" is frequently used as last word token, it is possible that the sequence has only 15 symbols followed by a "distinct" abbreviated word?

I'm very interested to see what are your opinion(s) related to.

Maybe you should look at it differently.
For example, the character ( ^ ) is almost never visible in VM text.
The ( c ) is missing in the arrangement. The VM ( P ) is only arranged in one half. The character after the 9 has two different looks.
Do not be fooled so quickly.

(05-03-2020, 10:31 AM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The ( c ) is missing in the arrangement. The VM ( P ) is only arranged in one half. The character after the 9 has two different looks.

If the variations are intentional, they suggest that d = j, f = p, c = I. Some transcriptions (TT) already do not differentiate between EVA d/j, c/I.

zamolxe Wrote:Enhancing the image it is very clear visible and  seems to be intentionally written. In this case it is a 18 symbols sequence.

There are other little dots on the first line.

(05-03-2020, 09:49 AM)zamolxe Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The first sequence of 17 letters is different from others. Between the last 2 symbols there is a "two dots" (column) sign. Enhancing the image it is very clear visible and  seems to be intentionally written. In this case it is a 18 symbols sequence.



 This rise some questions:
1. Why this sign is only there? The omission in the next sequences was intentionally  or by mistake?
2. What it means? It is the same meaning as in other abbreviated manuscripts?
3. Since EVA "y" is frequently used as last word token, it is possible that the sequence has only 15 symbols followed by a "distinct" abbreviated word?

I'm very interested to see what are your opinion(s) related to.

In an 17 glyph sequence the single leg gallows [f, p] occur in the middle of the sequence. This seems to be an appropriate place given these glyphs have some kind of marking function. Note also the symmetry of the two leg gallows [k, t] to either side. Counting more or fewer glyphs in these sequences breaks what structure they have.

Have it been discussed before that in the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. folio, in the second outer ring, there is a periodicity of 16 characters between line/dot symbols?
After the line/dot symbol, there are 16 voynich characters/symbols/glyphs and then again the line/dot symbol. 16 glyphs in the voynich "vocabolary"?
Just a curiosity.

I tried to look the old threads and discussions didn't have so much time to spend on so sorry if duplicate.

Edit: Forgot the attachment

Some people refer to this as the 4 x 17 sequence.

I like this 4 part montage by Sam, it makes differences easy to spot.

Sam already noted this but, I've been meaning to say, look at the differences in the (macron, hook) in the character after Eva p.
Sometimes completely attached, sometimes completely separate, sometimes a full circle, other times a gentle curve.

I think, according to Lisa, this is all scribe 1 !

(12-05-2020, 08:45 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Some people refer to this as the 4 x 17 sequence.

Thank you JKP. It was naïve to think it was not noticed before. 
So I guess also the repetition of the three glyph combination, which are also alternative letters of the big sequence, as seen in the attachment, is also old news. 

Scarecrow, there's still much to be discovered about this folio. No one has been able to convincingly describe its purpose or the reason for some of the individual patterns.

My impression when I first saw it was that it might be a code wheel (with rotating wheels) for generating text, but I haven't been able to find a direct relation between these patterns and the main text. Also, there are many other possibilities for what it might be.