-Job- > 19-02-2016, 05:59 AM
(18-02-2016, 09:39 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Without saying that this is the solution, but just to give an example and some food for thought:
if the words were all Roman numbers (i ... ix ... lvi ... cliii)
the same feature would emerge. Each word would have several ones that differ from it by
only one addition, deletion, replacement or swap.
Battler > 19-02-2016, 07:02 AM
-Job- Wrote:This could indicate the usage of null characters (e.g. 'a' after 'e' is null), but the word lengths don't really accommodate it...Maybe the null characters could be used like the null character in hangeul, ie. only in the beginning of a syllable?
-Job- > 20-02-2016, 05:11 AM
(19-02-2016, 07:02 AM)Battler Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.-Job- Wrote:This could indicate the usage of null characters (e.g. 'a' after 'e' is null), but the word lengths don't really accommodate it......
I think maybe the manuscript could be written in some form of Korean.
...
Wladimir D > 20-02-2016, 11:17 AM
Battler > 20-02-2016, 05:19 PM
Davidsch > 22-02-2016, 04:10 PM
Quote:In Pliny's vocabulary, if we take a word containing an "m" and replace it with an "s", we get a valid word 7% of the time. There are other valid substitutions but they yield less than 5% - i'm only listing the most significant ones.
Bible (Latin):
m replaced by s: 136/1887 7.0%
o replaced by i: 107/1828 6.0%
"The following gives the percentage of words that are still valid after a character substitution, in some texts of roughly equivalent lengths"
Pliny: m replaced by s: 213/3074 7.0%
-Job- > 24-02-2016, 07:35 AM
(22-02-2016, 04:10 PM)Davidsch Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.-job-
i am feeling stupid, because i do not understand your numbers on "replacement counts"
Quote:In Pliny's vocabulary, if we take a word containing an "m" and replace it with an "s", we get a valid word 7% of the time. There are other valid substitutions but they yield less than 5% - i'm only listing the most significant ones.
Bible (Latin):
m replaced by s: 136/1887 7.0%
o replaced by i: 107/1828 6.0%
"The following gives the percentage of words that are still valid after a character substitution, in some texts of roughly equivalent lengths"
Pliny: m replaced by s: 213/3074 7.0%
What does this mean in plain English ?
What is the software you use for this analysis, what rules ?
MarcoP > 24-02-2016, 10:54 AM
(24-02-2016, 07:35 AM)-Job- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The portion you quoted indicates that, among the set of words used in the Latin Bible sample text that contain an 'm', replacing the 'm' with an 's' results in another word used in the same sample text about 7% of the time.
Davidsch > 24-02-2016, 11:47 AM
-Job- > 24-02-2016, 05:42 PM
(24-02-2016, 11:47 AM)Davidsch Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well, who/what defines what is still a readable word in general ?
And how on earth do you define that for the Voynese words ?
I tried such a thing before and have so many examples what can be replaced
in a word and in a sentence, that almost ANYTHING is possible.
So probably I am missing something essential here, or anything can be replaced by anything, see below.
In the last case, we can generate many other numbers.
Your program that generated the "valid" replacements has one or more rules defined based on position or cohesion?
or do you simply replace ANY given letter?