(26-08-2026, 03:46 PM)JoJo_Jost Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Thank u Bernd, here ist an example of "ez" = "es" too, that looks like an "g". The word ist ezig = essig = vinegar

Are you sure? Do you have any more text?
One option is ‘zig/tzig’, as in ‘twenty, thirty…’ "zwantzig, dreitzig  ...."

I was also wondering what those O mean, could be relevant. Also that they often seem larger than regular "o", maybe capitals.

(26-08-2026, 04:16 PM)Bernd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Can someone tell me what the line-end 'O's on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. are?

Perhaps ounces? As in 1 ounce(1 uncia): 

   

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There are quite a number of these "O" symbols in this section. I collected a few. It's interesting that they come near the end, but are often surrounded by other unusual symbols. Perhaps some roman numerals "II", and other things. This is clearly a genre with its own conventions. It should be relevant for 116v though.

   

Edit: note that in some of these examples, O is preceded and followed by a dot. The layout of dots on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is different, but this may be relevant nonetheless.

(24-12-2025, 11:13 AM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I like the idea that it could be something like "fold the thing in half and burn it". But it would be useful to find some examples first. So far we know:

• ubren with diacritic on the "u" can mean "verbren", the imperative form.
  
  
• "verbren" is used in charm context
  
  
• one of those uses is specifically to burn a piece of paper on which you wrote a strong of magical words separated by crosses
  
  

I prefer attestation-based approaches over pure speculation. Knowing things feels much better than guessing. Our current knowledge is that "ubren" is alright for "verbrenn", but only if we assume they omitted a diacritic over the "u".

Now we need to know if there are instances of charms where the paper is folded and then burned, and also if a form like vald or vals (or even valt) is realistic. (I don't understand why you read this 8-shape like a ts-ligature). 

And then there's the issue of the two different imperative forms. In German, just like in Dutch, the imperative can be the verb stem (verbren!) or the verb infinitive (verbrennen!). Something like "valten verbren" would mix the two forms, which is very unlikely. 

This would be solved if it actually said something like "vald un vbren" -> fold and burn.

If the last line are instructions it has a sense, the first part is cyphered. Lets say that the cyphered text is a word like sag (german imperative say). 
Then it would mean: say, fold, burn. Instructions once the charm is written.

For the word valten it is needed under a cipher hipothesys that 8 = t and s = e. That opens new intrepetations for the words that contain the 8.
The words usually read as oladabas and portas became oladabat and portat.
The usually read as miltos is more interesting, it can be read as niiltot, ni(h)il tot, latin words for nothing all. It has some resemblance with
the use of alpha omega in some charms.