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  ololololo > 18-08-2026, 11:02 PM

     
  Rosette 1 perfectly matches diagram f67r1. They have the same number of rays = 12.
  
  Rosette has 3 14 rays in total. The You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. also has two different types of rays, but there are only 28 of them, whereas on the Rosetta 2 there are only half. In terms of shape, it is very similar to the f70r2. There’s even a sun in the center, but here’s the problem — this rosette is two rays short of 16; that’s exactly how many rays the f70r2 has
  
  I couldn’t figure out how many rays Rosetta 2 has. If it has 8, then it could correspond to f68v2 and the same f70r2 (it’s similar in shape). If it has 9, then there’s a candidate f70r1 (but there’s no similarity in shape) and f68v3 (9 spirals, but that’s not it at all).
  
  In total, possible matches: Rosette 1 - f67r1, Rosette 2 - f68v2, Rosette 3 - f70r2.
  
  ...And that’s it. It’s not enough to call Rosetta’s scheme a cosmological one.
  
  
  What do you think?

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  ololololo > Yesterday, 05:15 PM

  It looks interesting.
     
     

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  Bernd > Yesterday, 05:52 PM

  Yes, well-known. I think this just shows the author likes to recycle certain themes. Flowers contain elements that can be found in the rosette. Fun fact - the same appears to happen with the text (autocopy).

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  ololololo > Yesterday, 05:56 PM

  (Yesterday, 05:52 PM)Bernd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yes, well-known. I think this just shows the author likes to recycle certain themes. Flowers contain elements that can be found in the rosette. Fun fact - the same appears to happen with the text (autocopy).

  Oh, such similarities are very well‑suited to the theory of a hoax. They could argue that the author wasn’t very creative and simply drew the same images several times.

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  Bernd > Yesterday, 06:16 PM

  I really have no idea what to make of this. I find it hard to believe the VM is a deliberate hoax. It is too complex for that. Too much detail, too much work. It appears the project was important for the author(s). I rather think he wanted to create his own personal manuscript after the ones he had seen somewhere. But I find it equally hard to believe it is a masterfully enciphered manuscript with a substantial amount of meaningful content.
  
  About the text, I have zero idea. The imagery - it appears to be eclectically copied and shuffled together from a large and high-profile source. Which is baffling in itself. But I am increasingly unsure the author even knew what he was copying there. The whole thing looks like a fantasy world. Especially the rosette page.

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  Rafal > Yesterday, 06:32 PM

  Speaking of the part which you call Rosette 1...
  
  I have already said it before on this forum but will repeat it here.
  
  I believe that this part is inspired by a sundial clock. It seems to have 12 parts which makes a perfect sense for 12 hours.
  Also if you look closely, it has a hand in the middle pointing down.
  
  Let me include a picture which I find a bit similar.
  
     
  
  In a similar way it has a hand (signed "stilus" ) pointing down.
  
  As for the whole Rosettes stuff like some other people I believe it's probably a mix of things that the artists didn't really understand but found it cool to put them together and it doesn't make any deeper sense. It has sundials, Italian castles, wind roses, geometric patterns, clouds, pipes, stars as possibly even Tabernacle tent mixed up but they don't add to something having a global meaning.
  
  So yes, I am close to believe it's all hoax and humbug. Convince me that it isn't 

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  Stefan Wirtz_2 > Yesterday, 07:06 PM

  (18-08-2026, 11:02 PM)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[..]
  ...And that’s it. It’s not enough to call Rosetta’s scheme a cosmological one.
  What do you think?

  
  …and all these three „rosettes“ can also be easily assumed as tents, by their recognizable details.
  
  So, maybe zero for something like cosmic…

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  ololololo > Yesterday, 07:12 PM

  Yes, Rafał, I’ve already read about this similarity.
  The theory of mystification is unique in that it can transform all the arguments of other theories into assumptions, such as the author’s laziness or imagination. However, overall, this is possible, but for now I don’t know how this theory relates to the theory of singulions...

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  R. Sale > Yesterday, 07:18 PM

  There is a lot of stuff as you say. Why? Because you can't hide in the forest if there aren't any trees.
  
  What is hidden here in the Nine Rosettes, and elsewhere? Circular text bands designated by certain types of patterned markers. In the circular text band of the VMs central rosette there are a pair of quatrefoil markers, top and bottom. Using markers on hidden text is a viable way to covertly record information.
  
  On VMs White Aries, the contiguous, physical connection of a patterned marker and an armorial insignia with religious significance is either an indicator of authenticity or of an even greater hoax. It's a lot of work just for a hoax. Must have had a real burr under the saddle.

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  Rafal > Yesterday, 09:14 PM

  Quote:However, overall, this is possible, but for now I don’t know how this theory relates to the theory of singulions...

  
  For me hoax hypothesis and singulion hypothesis are generally unrelated.
  
  I have once suggested that Voynich Manuscript could be a prop of a wandering charlatan. A guy who travelled around the land, had his booth at marketplaces, sold ointments and claimed that he owns a miraculous scripture that only he could read but he was not giving that secret away.
  
  
  
  There was something like folded almanac: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. .
  It was generally a bunch of loose folios, often folded and carried in some box. And it was often a preferred way of keeping your texts for someone who travelled a lot. Unfortunately very few of such things survived. Let's be honest, books in libraries had much better conditions to survive and still only minority of them survived till today.
  
  Voynich Manuscript has stranglely big number of foldout folios. It would fit the singulion-almanac theory that it was originally not a book but exactly an almanac.
  
  Of course, VM could be a meaningful almanac as well 
  
  Unfortunately I am not able to give much more supporting evidence so you don't have to believe it.
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