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  ololololo > 3 hours ago

  I have repeatedly noticed that one plant in Botany is similar to another, and now I have decided to check all the plants for similarities. Here are the features I have discovered:
     
  f19r-f32v
     
  f9v-f23r
     
  f51v-f54v-f94r
     
  f17r-f90v2
  (there was an image here)
  f17v-f37r-f96v
     
  f18r-f87r
     
  f3v-f24r-f96r
  
  Below, if anything, is my clumsy attempt to depict the general features of the plants mentioned.
  As for Herbal B, you can identify not just similarities, but entire families of similar plants. More on this in the next post.

• RE: Similar plants in Botany

  ololololo > 3 hours ago

     
  f17v-f37r-f96v
  Families in Herbal B:
     
     
     
     
  In the last two cases, the similarity is more in the general form than in the same detail.

• RE: Similar plants in Botany

  Bernd > 2 hours ago

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  (26-05-2026, 10:56 PM)Bernd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There is a strange analogy between text and imagery. Both appear to have been cobbled together from a collection of building blocks according to some unknown rules. This is especially true for the VM plants. I agree that at least the majority are composites where roots, stem and flowers have been copied from different sources - and from within the VM. However I think for this reason we can rule out the plants are merely 'shuffled'. The roots were almost certainly copied from another source document than the stem/leaves. The flowers are the weirdest part and appear to be mostly an invention of the VM artist.
  
  But it doesn't stop there. If you look at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. as well as the weaker correlation between plant drawing styles and scribal hands, you see that each have their own themes and rules, much like the text. And like in the text, there is no 'hard break' between A and B, but no seamless continuum either. Like in the text, some plant themes are repetitive and almost exactly the same plant can be found drawn multiple times, by different scribal hands - or the same.
  
  As with the text, I have no idea if there is some useful information encoded within this imagery, or whether it is meaningless copy-paste. But I believe it shows that both text and plants (and ultimately all imagery) were designed with the same 'mindset'.

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  bi3mw > 1 hour ago

  (3 hours ago)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I have repeatedly noticed that one plant in Botany is similar to another .....

  
  Yes, the individual parts of the plants, not just the flowers, show strong similarities to one another. This leads to the assumption that the plants were repeatedly reassembled from their components (roots, stems, flowers) in a sort of modular system. The structure of the plants does not appear to be random, but rather seems to repeat itself. If one were to take the time, one could form groups of similar plants. In You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., I once compared the plant structures of the VMS with those in the Materia Medica. The similarities are striking. Unfortunately, creating diagrams for all the plants in the “Botany Section” is very laborious. That’s why I haven’t made much progress so far.

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  DG97EEB > 8 minutes ago

  I'm working on something but it's not quite where it needs to be yet You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. - select the older crops..
  
  I got a visual model to segment every herbal page . I had tried it with Pharma, but it was very confused... Still, that's the next job...
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