-JKP- > 24-09-2018, 01:57 PM
Davidsch > 25-09-2018, 12:45 PM
(24-09-2018, 01:56 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Beth Alpha Gemini are in line with a relatively common form which has parallels in eastern and western manuscripts alike.
It has little to do with the VM crossed arms, which stem from images of courtly love scenes.
It will have to be investigated further if this pose has a specific significance or whether it evoled from the ring-exchanging image Marco posted earlier.
Koen G > 25-09-2018, 07:42 PM
-JKP- > 26-09-2018, 12:12 AM
ReneZ > 26-09-2018, 05:14 AM
-JKP- > 26-09-2018, 05:21 AM
MarcoP > 26-09-2018, 08:41 AM
bi3mw > 26-09-2018, 08:58 AM
(25-09-2018, 07:42 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....Also no crossed arms but the same motive with a hug. So there were different variants.
Anyway, I came across another woodcut which might be of interest to check if its sources can be backtracked. Warning: it's late (16th century) and the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. where I saw it is not the most reputable source. But I thought I'd share anyway since it's about the Decans. It seems to be related to the woodcut I posted earlier. The arms are not crossed, though they may have been at one point because:
* the man's right arm is ridiculously lengthened
* his left arm kind of disappears into the point where in the VM image he'd grab the woman's left hand
Might we be able to connect this to earlier works?
It came only with the description "A sixteenth-century woodcut of the three decans of Pisces. Reproduced by permission of Fortean Picture Library." I haven't been able to find the source yet, some keyword searches at Fortean haven't brought up anything.
Koen G > 26-09-2018, 09:23 PM
-JKP- > 27-09-2018, 12:43 AM
(26-09-2018, 09:23 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
Now to get back to the pair, I think the man's short statue is due to botched perspective. Courtly images of a pair facing each other regularly force some depth by making the man smaller, while the woman's dress trails further down. This example from: