- Options
- Login
- Desktop Style
Options
Non-voynichese word on f68r2
- Non-voynichese word on f68r2
-
Non-voynichese word on f68r2
ololololo > 28-06-2026, 06:08 PM
This word is not on Voynichese, obviously, was left by the author/scribe himself.
It is in a circle with the Voynichese words. The first letter (which is clearly a Latin s) and the third letter (maybe an n) are what distinguish this word. The word is also highlighted by the fact that there are connections between the letters (marked in dark red in the image below), and the distance between them is quite small.
I tried to draw the letters that I could see here:
At least this word has 4 letters, the final one is not identified for sure. The word looks similar to the Bavarian "Suna" (the sun), which is consistent with the sun that is supposedly drawn nearby. However, it is unclear why u has a tail...
If it's a contraction, we won't be able to decipher it.
What do you think? -
RE: Non-voynichese word on f68r2
Linda > 28-06-2026, 06:34 PM
(28-06-2026, 06:08 PM)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This word is not on Voynichese, obviously, was left by the author/scribe himself.
It is in a circle with the Voynichese words. The first letter (which is clearly a Latin s) and the third letter (maybe an n) are what distinguish this word. The word is also highlighted by the fact that there are connections between the letters (marked in dark red in the image below), and the distance between them is quite small.
I tried to draw the letters that I could see here:
At least this word has 4 letters, the final one is not identified for sure. The word looks similar to the Bavarian "Suna" (the sun), which is consistent with the sun that is supposedly drawn nearby. However, it is unclear why u has a tail...
If it's a contraction, we won't be able to decipher it.
What do you think?
I just looked at the image and the two words preceding also didn't look like Voynichese to me. I saw Cuo a sona, I put it into a translator, got told it was Spanish and means 'it rings here'? I do not know. Tried with sond, suna, it won't translate it at all. Suna by itself it told me was English. Tried another translator, no results at all with any of it. -
RE: Non-voynichese word on f68r2
Grove > 28-06-2026, 06:54 PM
The interlinear has some voynichese variations:
<f68r2.L.1;H> okeo.okoaiin.okol.oky.oeeeo.r.ekey.okcho!l.cheo.o.koiin.
<f68r2.L.1;R> okey.otoaiin.opol.oky.oshed.r.*key.okeeo!l.chey.o.!***!.
<f68r2.L.1;U> okey.okoaiin.okol.o**.oeeeo,r.okey.okeeo!l.cheo.o,****!.
<f68r2.L.1;V>
okey.okoaiin.okol.oky.ocheo.r.okey.okeeo.l.cheo.o.****!.{Grove's C2} -
RE: Non-voynichese word on f68r2
ololololo > 28-06-2026, 06:56 PM
(28-06-2026, 06:34 PM)Linda Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
According to the Bavarian dictionary, the sun is Sunn, but on the Internet and using AI (please forgive me, forum, for using it; I don't know Bavarian) I also found the variant Suna. It's not a fact that it's the sun at all. We only have the letters s and n.(28-06-2026, 06:08 PM)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This word is not on Voynichese, obviously, was left by the author/scribe himself.
It is in a circle with the Voynichese words. The first letter (which is clearly a Latin s) and the third letter (maybe an n) are what distinguish this word. The word is also highlighted by the fact that there are connections between the letters (marked in dark red in the image below), and the distance between them is quite small.
I tried to draw the letters that I could see here:
At least this word has 4 letters, the final one is not identified for sure. The word looks similar to the Bavarian "Suna" (the sun), which is consistent with the sun that is supposedly drawn nearby. However, it is unclear why u has a tail...
If it's a contraction, we won't be able to decipher it.
What do you think?
I just looked at the image and the two words preceding also didn't look like Voynichese to me. I saw Cuo a sona, I put it into a translator, got told it was Spanish and means 'it rings here'? I do not know. Tried with sond, suna, it won't translate it at all. Suna by itself it told me was English. Tried another translator, no results at all with any of it.
(28-06-2026, 06:54 PM)Grove Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The interlinear has some voynichese variations:
All right. In Tahakari, this word is pronounced as koiin. But it doesn't sound much like koiin or other words.
<f68r2.L.1;H> okeo.okoaiin.okol.oky.oeeeo.r.ekey.okcho!l.cheo.o.koiin.
<f68r2.L.1;R> okey.otoaiin.opol.oky.oshed.r.*key.okeeo!l.chey.o.!***!.
<f68r2.L.1;U> okey.okoaiin.okol.o**.oeeeo,r.okey.okeeo!l.cheo.o,****!.
<f68r2.L.1;V>
okey.okoaiin.okol.oky.ocheo.r.okey.okeeo.l.cheo.o.****!.{Grove's C2} -
RE: Non-voynichese word on f68r2
oshfdk > 28-06-2026, 07:13 PM
(28-06-2026, 06:08 PM)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.What do you think?
I think it's Voynichese.
There was a thread about this one: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
My take is here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
It does look like r written over a vertical line to me. Probably the scribe first drew the vertical separator like in some other circular inscriptions and then had to append something like raiin to the end of the line. Or vice versa, decided to add raiin to the beginning and added a separator to show where the inscription starts. In any case, to me this looks more like a botched job with some Voynichese than Latin. (Edit: more like raiin, than rain).
-
RE: Non-voynichese word on f68r2
ololololo > 28-06-2026, 07:14 PM
It is possible that the first letter is not s, but h, in which case the word would be read as hind (or hnd). But it doesn't give us anything... -
RE: Non-voynichese word on f68r2
ololololo > 28-06-2026, 07:30 PM
(28-06-2026, 07:13 PM)oshfdk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
It looks interesting. Perhaps the scribe didn't understand what was written in the author's draft, and re-drew the scribbles as they were(28-06-2026, 06:08 PM)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.What do you think?
I think it's Voynichese.
There was a thread about this one: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
My take is here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
It does look like r written over a vertical line to me. Probably the scribe first drew the vertical separator like in some other circular inscriptions and then had to append something like rain to the end of the line. Or vice versa, decided to add rain to the beginning and added a separator to show where the inscription starts. In any case, to me this looks more like a botched job with some Voynichese than Latin.
But the last letters don't look like aiin, because it's unclear what the upper connection between the i characters is, and what happened to the n.
I believe that it is quite possible that the word was distorted because it didn't fit. The scribe may have started writing the inscriptions in the circle with the word okey. But that doesn't mean it's rain. -
RE: Non-voynichese word on f68r2
Koen G > 28-06-2026, 08:54 PM
I agree with the Voynichese reading, and my guess is simply that the strong curve of the small circle was giving them trouble. The other Voynichese words aren't exactly their finest examples of calligraphy either.