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RE: Month names collection / metastudy
eggyk > 53 minutes ago
(Yesterday, 11:49 PM)Bernd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Oswald Lieder (OVW)
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Reinfried von Braunschweig (RVBR)
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Der Schulmeister von Esslingen (SVE)
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Der heilige Georg (GRG)
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Flore und Blanscheflur (FLO)
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Minnereden Band 2 (MR2)
The above have been added, so far. This is a good line of searching by the way. For example, the 'Oswald von Wolkenstein' poem happens to be a couple of pages before a work listing all of the months, so that one search turned into two full sequences. (note that although they are the same work with the sameish sequence, some of the spelling varies between them)
(1 hour ago)Bernd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Neither in his region nor time. He just diligently copied an older work - and its much more ancient language. To test this hypothesis, we'd have to look into the creation dates and places of the texts themselves to see if they correlate better with certain spelling variants of month names.
This is certainly at play, as copies of works tend to have similar spellings as eachother, but those copies of the same work do differ quite often. Considering we also have attested "aberel","abrill","abrell" as headers in calendars in the 15thC, it is probably the case that many of these dialectal forms persisted for a longer time. It's probably very similar to 'octembre'; it was more commonly seen in the 13th and 14th centuries, but was used in the 15th century.
(Yesterday, 11:49 PM)Bernd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Virginal (VIR)
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dâ was von wurzen ein gesmac,
alsô abrelle und merze
waeren dâ mit voller bluot.
For the life of me I can't find this one. It's supposedly in these:
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An interesting one:
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Hans Zukunft, Das goldene Jahr (from your Minnereden Band 2 (MR2))
1450AD, Swabia
mertzen
abrellen
may
jonius
julius
ögst
september
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Jonius for june
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RE: Month names collection / metastudy
Bernd > 18 minutes ago
(53 minutes ago)eggyk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Strange. But this is why it's so important to check each claim.(Yesterday, 11:49 PM)Bernd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Virginal (VIR)
For the life of me I can't find this one. It's supposedly in these:
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dâ was von wurzen ein gesmac,
alsô abrelle und merze
waeren dâ mit voller bluot.
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If it helps, the exact location is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., Stanza 437, Row 10
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437 1 Der Berner sprach" vil schoene magt,
2 du hâst gewalt: swaz dir behagt,
3 daz schrîp nâch dîme muote. "
4 diu maget gie dô al zehant,
5 dâ se ein getriuwen boten vant.
6 sî brâhte in zuo der huote
7 dâ der Berner inne lac.
8 dâ branten schoene kerzen,
9 dâ was von wurzen ein gesmac,
10 alsô abrelle und merze
11 waeren dâ mit voller bluot.
12 sî tete im dâ noch dienstes mê,
13 durch daz er waere baz gemuot.
438 1 Diu maget den boten niht erliez,
2 mit triuwen sî in sitzen hiez
3 und sprach vil wunnenclîche
4 " mîn sundervriunt vil tugenthaft,
5 du wirp mir eine botschaft,
6 wiltu sîn guotes rîche.
The reference says that the complete manuscripts are independent textual versions which stories differ significantly.
I checked MARS which yields a lot of entries, but unsurprisingly all of them deal with the planet or the god, not the month.