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RE: About the generation of similar words
quimqu > 9 hours ago
(Yesterday, 03:27 PM)quimqu Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
metric Voynich Natural lev≤1 giant ~80% 5–34% lev≤2 giant ~93–94% 58–82% segmentation 83–90% 0–60%
I am still in shocked seing these numbers...
94% of the Voynich words are connected in a giant graph with Levenshtein values of <=2 (this means 2 character changes, insertion, deletion or substitution). The rest, they are all Hapax legomena and 90% of that rest can be explained dividing the word into smaller words, that are all in the giant graph. This means that 99,4% of the words are connected... stunning -
RE: About the generation of similar words
ReneZ > 2 hours ago
(17-03-2026, 01:37 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is an important fact to take into account: lines were not always written sequentially from top to bottom as any normal text would be. There are many instances of gallows intrusions where the text visibly curves upward to avoid a big gallows glyph on the next line. (This is a big indication of something fishy going on by the way.) So the earlier written words on the same page don't have to be on a line above or to the left on the same line.
This is very important, and I noticed the same back at the time when Gabriel and I did our transliteration activity.
On the other hand, it is not so easy to find many good examples to demonstrate this.
In a few places it is clear that things were not written line by line, but I have not found sufficient convincing evidence that this happened on any significant scale.
Best candidates are the biological and stars sections.
The best evidence for non-linear writing I have seen is in small vertical baseline jumps that appear in the same location on several consecutive lines, but that can also have another explanation.
Again, hard to find examples of it happening on any large scale... -
RE: About the generation of similar words
Jorge_Stolfi > 1 hour ago
(17-03-2026, 01:37 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There are many instances of gallows intrusions where the text visibly curves upward to avoid a big gallows glyph on the next line.
I know of one example in the Starred Parags section, which is part of a rather strange mess in the layout. That is followed a few lines later by an abrupt change of handwriting. Apparently in the middle of a word. I fancy that a Scribe was fired for said mess and a new one hired to finish the page.
Since those examples are supposed to be the evidence proving that the Scribing was not "linear", it would be important to list them all in one place.
It may be that the Scribe struggled to understand the Author's handwriting and thus left blanks here and there, to be filled later after consulting the Author.
It may also be that the Scribe wrote a crooked line by accident, and then on the next line he chose to "puff up" some glyphs where he had enough space to do so.
Quote:[René]:The best evidence for non-linear writing I have seen is in small vertical baseline jumps that appear in the same location on several consecutive lines, but that can also have another explanation.
There is also that Herbal page where the Scribe apparently misunderstood a single-column text that was interrupted by the plant as being two columns, and wrote it that way.
All the best, --stolfi
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