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JustAnotherTheory > 21-02-2026, 03:20 PM
An interesting aspect of the VMS zodiac section is the duplicated lobster:
Why duplicate the crayfish? There are no other instances of such a thing occurring in other contemporary manuscripts. But I found one with a double lobster:
It's the only example to my knowledge where two lobsters appear so close to one another. Here is the source: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
It's from this 15th century manuscript: Fables; Exemplum de Tribus Latronibus; (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) -
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pjburkshire > 21-02-2026, 03:46 PM
Maybe the lower red one is the real one and the upper light one (and attached by a string) is a spiritual one. -
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JustAnotherTheory > 21-02-2026, 06:55 PM
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pjburkshire > 21-02-2026, 08:28 PM
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Maybe the lower red one is the real one and the upper light one (and attached by a string) is a spiritual one.
Haven't seen any examples of such a crustacean configuration before.
The Voynich Manuscript does seem to be unique in a lot of ways. The way I see it, the entire storyline of the Voynich Manuscript is about how life (or spirit essence) begins in the spiritual world and transfers to the physical world.
Why is the upper crustacean only red at the head and front claws? -
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JustAnotherTheory > 21-02-2026, 10:40 PM
Cause the red paint faded? -
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DG97EEB > Yesterday, 12:23 AM
(21-02-2026, 06:55 PM)JustAnotherTheory Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(21-02-2026, 03:46 PM)pjburkshire Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Maybe the lower red one is the real one and the upper light one (and attached by a string) is a spiritual one.
Haven't seen any examples of such a crustacean configuration before.
Book of Hours
England, probably Oxford, ca. 1325-1330
MS M.700 fol. 7r -
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DG97EEB > Yesterday, 12:33 AM
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(21-02-2026, 03:46 PM)pjburkshire Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Maybe the lower red one is the real one and the upper light one (and attached by a string) is a spiritual one.
Haven't seen any examples of such a crustacean configuration before.
Book of Hours
England, probably Oxford, ca. 1325-1330
MS M.700 fol. 7r
Not lobsters but another rare double.. double Scorpio
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Worth also looking at 8v... A male nymph with a star..
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JustAnotherTheory > Yesterday, 09:56 AM
(Yesterday, 12:23 AM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Book of Hours
England, probably Oxford, ca. 1325-1330
MS M.700 fol. 7r
Very interesting. Any ideas why one would duplicate crayfish? I thought duplication was reserved for twins, or fish. Furthermore, in the VMS, it appears that the lobsters are connected to each other through their mouths, which is a unique feature of Pisces. Doesn't seem logical. Intentional mistake or just pure scribal incompetence? -
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pjburkshire > Yesterday, 03:23 PM
(Yesterday, 09:56 AM)JustAnotherTheory Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Very interesting. Any ideas why one would duplicate crayfish? I thought duplication was reserved for twins, or fish. Furthermore, in the VMS, it appears that the lobsters are connected to each other through their mouths, which is a unique feature of Pisces. Doesn't seem logical. Intentional mistake or just pure scribal incompetence?
Yes, there is unusual duplication. Normally the order would be Aries, Taurus, Gemini, and Cancer. If you start with Pisces then the order would be:
Pisces (two fish swimming in opposite directions) {mouth-to-mouth string/cord}
Aries (The Ram) [Goat] {2 pages}
Taurus (The Bull) {2 pages}
Gemini (The Twins) {male & female}
Cancer (The Crab) [Lobsters/Crayfish/Crustaceans] {mouth-to-mouth string/cord}
Normally only 2 of these 5 Signs would be 2 things but in the Voynich Manuscript, all of the first 5 Signs have 2 things. Also, in the 3 cases where there are 2 where there would normally be only 1, one is light in color and one is darker in color. The different colors could have significance or maybe the artist wanted to stress that they were putting in 2 and not the typical 1. They also stressed that they were making two each of Aries and Taurus by giving each 2 pages. Possibly they needed more space for more words or possibly they were trying to stress some kind of duality.
The Pisces in the Voynich Manuscript seems to be one of the more traditional illustrations. The meaning of the string/cord is still a mystery to me. About all I can say is that it probably represents some kind of connection. What 2 things/concepts are being connected is still a mystery. Microsoft Copilot gave me a long list of possible interpretations. If people are interested, I'm sure they can consult their own bot of choice.
I think traditionally Gemini is two identical male twins yet in the Voynich Manuscript we have a male and female. An expected duplication but not in the expected way.
As I said before, I don't think the Zodiac section in the Voynich Manuscript was created as a typical, generic Zodiac reference. I think it is showing some kind of process or schedule.