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• RE: What is special about Voynich plants?

  BessAgritianin > 13-05-2026, 03:54 AM

  (07-11-2021, 11:24 AM)zamolxe Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (09-04-2016, 06:19 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.- VM adds more unnatural elements, mostly in the roots but perhaps also in other parts.

  
  I have to say I'm not a at all a plant specialist. This is just an observation and must be criticized/scrutinized by professionals. 
  
  The You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. plant seems to me to be very similar with Cinnamon plant. The roots can represent rolled bark i.e. the product used in confectionery. The below images are from Wikipedia.

  
  
  F14v- Acanthus Mollis- Bear breeches:
  
     

• RE: What is special about Voynich plants?

  Koen G > 13-05-2026, 01:10 PM

  (12-05-2026, 10:02 PM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Not sure where to put this, but Ms.336 has swallowtail merlons on f 17v.. I couldn't see it on the map... Possibly Veneto

  
  It's "late 15th century", so technically doesn't go on the map. Luckily, we're not short on earlier Veneto examples :)

• RE: What is special about Voynich plants?

  Pierre Dumont Himself > 24-05-2026, 12:44 PM

  (09-04-2016, 06:19 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The fat symmetrical loop is probably impressionistic, but there are multiple causes for smaller splits in nature:
  excessive water flow through vascular tissue, heat, cold,  or wind damage, bacterial  or fungal infections, etc. It's more common to see cracks, but splits are absolutely possible.
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  Tomato stem splitting due to environmental conditions.
  
  It could also be an exaggeraated hole caused by beetles or various larvae:
  
  Tomato stem damaged by a borer.
  
  It's also possible that there's no splitting, and what we see is an artifact of how the dried out plant was pressed in a herbarium:
  
  Malva parviflora from Florida
  
  Malva sylvestris from Kent.

• RE: What is special about Voynich plants?

  Bernd > 24-05-2026, 04:51 PM

  The amount and size of stem loops and fused plants is unique to the VM. This goes way beyond split or bored-through stems.
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  I think it's plausible that the VM artist misinterpreted another drawing where stems crossed each other as a loop. Looking at a herbarium specimen, it would have been obvious that the stems never were physically connected. It should have been obvious that plants don't grow like this, but the VM artist drew the loops nonetheless, either accidentally or on purpose.

• RE: What is special about Voynich plants?

  JoJo_Jost > 24-05-2026, 09:51 PM

  Since some parts of the plants match known plants perfectly, while others—such as the roots—do not, I could imagine, that the plants are also “coded”—in that at least the roots have been swapped according to a certain logic, and perhaps the flowers, leaves, and stems as well.
  
  So, at least shifted by one or something like that.
  
  But I admit that this is nothing more than a completely unprovable idea...
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