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• Is the Voynich a renaissance work?

  Mark Knowles > 5 hours ago

  As a distraction from my work on rare words and rare glyphs in Voynichese I thought I would raise this question.
  
  I am inclined given my theories to view the Voynich manuscript as a product of the Italian renaissance more than a medieval work, although one clearly with obvious medieval influences. I daresay others have a different perspective. Nevertheless I would be curious as to other perspectives.

• RE: Is the Voynich a renaissance work?

  bi3mw > 4 hours ago

  Well, the early Renaissance in Italy is generally dated from 1420 onwards. So it's a question of definition.

• RE: Is the Voynich a renaissance work?

  Rafal > 4 hours ago

  Okay, let me start in maybe naive way 
  
  This is Renaissance art - realistic people and full 3D perspective:
  
  
  Voynich art is nothing like that and is more similar to Medieval art.
  
  What is your answer?

• RE: Is the Voynich a renaissance work?

  Mark Knowles > 4 hours ago

  (4 hours ago)Rafal Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Okay, let me start in maybe naive way 
  
  This is Renaissance art - realistic people and full 3D perspective:
  
  
  Voynich art is nothing like that and is more similar to Medieval art.
  
  What is your answer?

  
  Well, I don't see the Voynich as a work of renaissance painting. I suppose that the renaissance can be seen in much broader terms. Perhaps, I view it more in terms of emerging renaissance science. Of course, the 3D renaissance art techniques developed out renaissance science as well.
  

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  (4 hours ago)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well, the early Renaissance in Italy is generally dated from 1420 onwards. So it's a question of definition.

  
  Very much so. Different people will give different definitions of the start of the renaissance. And obviously drawing a firm line between the Medieval and renaissance periods is arbitrary.

• RE: Is the Voynich a renaissance work?

  Mark Knowles > 4 hours ago

  I suppose as someone who views the Voynich as a somewhat innovative scientific notebook for the time written in a somewhat novel cipher I like to view it in terms of the renaissance rather than the Medieval.

• RE: Is the Voynich a renaissance work?

  Jorge_Stolfi > 2 hours ago

  (4 hours ago)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well, I don't see the Voynich as a work of renaissance painting. I suppose that the renaissance can be seen in much broader terms. Perhaps, I view it more in terms of emerging renaissance science. Of course, the 3D renaissance art techniques developed out renaissance science as well.

  
  As has been discussed many times, the VMS Scribe may have had some experience writing in Latin or whatver, but no experience at all with illustrations.   For instance, he learned to draw a passable nymph only after completing 2-3 pages of the Zodiac.  He could not divide a circle into four equal parts, or plan his drawings so that all the parts would fit into the space available.  
  
  In particular, he had no notion of perspective.  Not even to the limited extent that people had in the Middle Ages. 
  
  So you cannot use the style of the illustrations to judge the epoch the VMS was created.  It makes more sense to look for books where he may have copied from.  Like the "herbals of the alchemists", of that German book that seems to be the inspiration for the Ages of Man in f85r2.  But, as noted before, he could not understand that drawing either...
  
  All the best, --stolfi
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