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[split] Retracer Thread: darker ink, retracing of text and drawings
- [split] Retracer Thread: darker ink, retracing of text and drawings
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RE: [split] Retracer Thread: darker ink, retracing of text and drawings
R. Sale > 26-11-2025, 09:14 PM
In VMs Scorpio, there are various contributions in darker ink. From 3 o'clock to 11 o'clock, the nymphs in the outer ring are labeled / named by vords in dark ink. There are also some examples in the inner circle. If there was prior writing underneath, I can't find it. If the dark ink labels are original, then does this writer know Voynichese? -
RE: [split] Retracer Thread: darker ink, retracing of text and drawings
Jorge_Stolfi > 27-11-2025, 02:42 AM
(26-11-2025, 09:14 PM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In VMs Scorpio [f73r], there are various contributions in darker ink. From 3 o'clock to 11 o'clock, the nymphs in the outer ring are labeled / named by vords in dark ink. There are also some examples in the inner circle. If there was prior writing underneath, I can't find it.
First, note that the original (Rt0) traces may be quite faint now -- like (A), or worse.
Second, there were at least two retracing episodes, Rt1 (medium brown ink) and Rt2 (nearly black ink).
The Rt1 pass retraced all the text in the rings, some of the labels, and a good part of the nymph outlines, as in (K). In particular, the circles were originally drawn using a compass with an ink attachment that left very thin smooth lines, where the ink sometime faltered. The result was basically a scored (dry point) line with irregular dots and dashes in ink. See (B,C). But the Rt1 pass retraced some parts of some circles in freehand, as in (J).
The eye (D) may be original or this Rt1 pass, I can't tell for sure.
The Rt2 pass was the infamous "Boobs Retracer" who added or retraced the same elements that received his attention in Bio and the other Zodiac pages: breasts, nipples, belly buttons, eyes. Maybe the red lips too. And he also retraced some labels. I can't tell for sure whether those labels were original and were skipped by Rt1, or had already been retraced by Rt1. In the second case, maybe thy had faded too.
Either way, Rt1 did leave some bits of those earlier strokes in the labels. Check (E,F,G,H). In (G), for instance, the lower half of the plume is Rt0 or Rt1, and there a bit of that old trace showing besides the Rt2 retrace near the top of the i stroke.
So neither Rt1 nor Rt2 needed to know Voynichese.
All the best, --stolfi -
RE: [split] Retracer Thread: darker ink, retracing of text and drawings
Jorge_Stolfi > Yesterday, 02:12 PM
Hallucinations on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. again, but with the Lazarus Project multi-spectral images (which have about twice the resolution of the Beinecke 2014 scans, namely ~27 pixels/mm instead of ~14 pixels/mm)
This clip is covers the left end of lines 15-19 of page f1r. It is a composite of three narrow-band images from the Lazarus 2016 Multi-Spectral set: MB940IR_012_F (infrared 940 nm) as red, MB700IR_008_F (near-infrared 700 nm) as green, and MB625RD_006_F (red 625 nm) as blue.
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This image shows the multiple retracing passes previously observed in the Beinecke 2014 color scans, namely presumed original traces (Rt0, green labels), first general restoration pass (Rt1, cyan labels), and possibly two retouching passes (Rt2, purple labels, and Rt3, pink labels)..The dark red-black color or the Rt3 traces means that the ink is substantially opaque to infrared even at 940 nm, as expected from true iron-gall ink Conversely, the lighter orange-yellow color of Rt0 and Rt1 traces means that they are mostly transparent at 940nm, as expected from ocher paint..The passes Rt2 (light red traces) and Rt3 (dark reddish-brown traces) may be the same pass with different ink thickness due to pen recharging, or different light intensity due to warping of the vellum. See item (D) below. Eventually I hope to be able to correct for this factor...- (A,B,C) Contrast between Rt0 (loop of k and ligature of h), Rt1 (top of left leg and bottom of right leg), and Rt3 (the C and bottom of left leg).
- (D) Contrast between Rt2 (top) and Rt3 (bottom) versions of o, which may be due to light intensity variations.
- (E) Anomalous thin strokes of Rt0 Sh retraced by Rt1 with same thin strokes.
- (F) Faint thin end of original Rt0 plume extending beyond end of Rt3 retrace.
- (G,H) Faint thin ends of y tails extending beyond Rt1 retraces of the same.
- (I) Rt1 traces visible under the Rt3 retrace.
- (J) Rt1 or Rt2 traces visible under Rt3 retrace.
- (K) The i strokes were Rt1 and their bottom halves are retraced Rt2.
- (L) The a glyph has left half Rt1,right half Rt2.
- (M) Plume of n retraced in the wrong direction (clockwise), with butt end.
- (N) The body of the n is Rt2; the plume is wholly or partly Rt2, traced in the wrong direction.
- (O) The lower half of the right stroke of the a is Rt0, poking out from under the Rt1 retrace.
- (P) Top of loop of the d is Rt1, rest is Rt2 or Rt3.
- (Q) Ambiguity q/y created bt Rt1.
All the best, --stolfi - (A,B,C) Contrast between Rt0 (loop of k and ligature of h), Rt1 (top of left leg and bottom of right leg), and Rt3 (the C and bottom of left leg).