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RE: Expert Opinions on 'daiin'
quimqu > 29-10-2025, 11:17 AM
(29-10-2025, 02:05 AM)Kaybo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I have looked for homophonic substitution in the EVA transcript, because there are words that have just one exchanged character. If you analyse this you find that some characters are exchanged while others stay fixed. Neither a,i or n have a significant exchange rate in words. So if it s a common suffix it appears very often without any change. However, it would be very likely that vowels have more characters in this kind of systems.
This could mean that a, i and n form a single glyph (or multiple single lgyphs). For example EVA aiin could correspond to a sigle glyph. -
RE: Expert Opinions on 'daiin'
Kaybo > 31-10-2025, 12:16 AM
(29-10-2025, 11:17 AM)quimqu Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(29-10-2025, 02:05 AM)Kaybo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I have looked for homophonic substitution in the EVA transcript, because there are words that have just one exchanged character. If you analyse this you find that some characters are exchanged while others stay fixed. Neither a,i or n have a significant exchange rate in words. So if it s a common suffix it appears very often without any change. However, it would be very likely that vowels have more characters in this kind of systems.
This could mean that a, i and n form a single glyph (or multiple single lgyphs). For example EVA aiin could correspond to a sigle glyph.
Very likely. Its also fixed term on f57v. And on the side notes on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. its the only fixed term in a row of letters. -
RE: Expert Opinions on 'daiin'
Mauro > Yesterday, 10:10 PM
(31-10-2025, 12:16 AM)Kaybo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.And on the side notes on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. its the only fixed term in a row of letters.
It's 'air' on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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RE: Expert Opinions on 'daiin'
Jorge_Stolfi > 6 hours ago
(Yesterday, 10:10 PM)Mauro Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(31-10-2025, 12:16 AM)Kaybo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.And on the side notes on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. its the only fixed term in a row of letters.
It's 'air' on f66r
Those columns are so incongruous that they are probably not original.
In the text of that page there are several glyphs, or parts thereof, that have faded to near invisibility. There are also clear signs of "restoration" (retracing with the intent of recovering and preserving faded glyphs). Not just variations in ink color, but also strokes with fuzzy and sharp edges, plumes being traced in the wrong direction, extreme variation of glyph shapes, misshaped glyphs (including in the middle column), ...
Some of the glyphs in the middle column also appear in the 4x74 sequence of f57v, but the shapes are distorte or incomplete. here the picnic table x seems to exist in two distinct versions, that "walk" in opposite directions.The symbols in the middle column start aligned text lines, but halfway through the page the sync is lost.
It is possible that the original glyphs in the middle column have faded completely, and those we see today are partly hallucinations by the Restorer.
It is even possible that the two columns in the left margin of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (like those in the right margin of f1r) did not exist in the original, and were added by some late owner who was trying to solve the "encryption".
Thus I would not trust any deduction based on those two columns.
All the best, --stolfi