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• Is quire 10 a single bifolio, or two folios stitched together?

  Jorge_Stolfi > 20-09-2025, 12:16 PM

  Apologies if this has been asked an answered before.
  
  According to tYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., Quire 10 consists of a single bifolio with one flap (f69.1) on one side of the binding, and 2 1/2 flaps (f70.1, f70.2, f70.3) on the other.  However, on the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., there seems to be a gap between folio f69 and folio f70; as if those two were separate pieces of parchment, loosely stitched together. 
  
  Maybe there is a triple fold there, that hides a strip of the bifolio?  But I see no sign of it on the images of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. 
  
  All the best, --jorge

• RE: Is quire 10 a single bifolio, or two folios stitched together?

  ReneZ > 22-09-2025, 06:11 AM

  (20-09-2025, 12:16 PM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Apologies if this has been asked an answered before.
  
  According to tYou are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., Quire 10 consists of a single bifolio with one flap (f69.1) on one side of the binding, and 2 1/2 flaps (f70.1, f70.2, f70.3) on the other.  However, on the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., there seems to be a gap between folio f69 and folio f70; as if those two were separate pieces of parchment, loosely stitched together. 
  
  Maybe there is a triple fold there, that hides a strip of the bifolio?  But I see no sign of it on the images of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. 
  
  All the best, --jorge

  
  When the 2016 Yale photo facsimilar was produced, the manuscript layout was double-checked before producing the figure on page 24, which is equivalent to the diagram on my web site, so this is definitely a single sheet / bifolio.

• RE: Is quire 10 a single bifolio, or two folios stitched together?

  Jorge_Stolfi > 22-09-2025, 08:07 AM

  (22-09-2025, 06:11 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.When the 2016 Yale photo facsimilar was produced, the manuscript layout was double-checked before producing the figure on page 24, which is equivalent to the diagram on my web site, so this is definitely a single sheet / bifolio.

  
  Thanks!... But then what is the explanation for the gap that we see in the BL 2014 image of f69v+f70r1+f70r2?
     
  (My guess was that f69  and f70 behave like a single bifolio (as per the foliation diagram), but are in fact two separate pieces of vellum stitched together.  This stitching would not be part of the book binding, but would be prior to and independent from it.)
  
  (Or perhaps the parchment was brittle and the bifolio split from too much handling, and was mended at some point by an owner or librarian.)
  
  All the best, --jorge

• RE: Is quire 10 a single bifolio, or two folios stitched together?

  ReneZ > 22-09-2025, 09:22 AM

  I think that these are two threads.

• RE: Is quire 10 a single bifolio, or two folios stitched together?

  Jim Reeds > 22-09-2025, 11:55 AM

  (22-09-2025, 09:22 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think that these are two threads.

  
  This is what I vaguely remember, too, from my 1990's  visit to the VMS.

• RE: Is quire 10 a single bifolio, or two folios stitched together?

  Jorge_Stolfi > 22-09-2025, 12:06 PM

  (22-09-2025, 09:22 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think that these are two threads.

  
  Ah! Of course, it makes sense.  Sorry for the bother...
  
  All the best, --jorge

• RE: Is quire 10 a single bifolio, or two folios stitched together?

  LisaFaginDavis > 22-09-2025, 04:02 PM

  Definitely one sheet.
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