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  Jim Reeds > 12-08-2025, 03:32 PM

  This is maybe the wrong place to mention this, but: the file You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (linked from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) had been removed at some point in time, because it had a  "Happy99" infection.  I recently found a stack of backup CD roms made in 2002, found the infected file there, unzipped it, found and deleted the infected email, and rebuilt 1999.zip. My "Bitdefender" antivirus detects no infection in the new version of 1999.zip.  I will try to get it put back on the voynich.net site.

• RE: voynich dot net and its forum gone?

  Jim Reeds > 13-08-2025, 10:20 PM

  (12-08-2025, 03:32 PM)Jim Reeds Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is maybe the wrong place to mention this, but: the file You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (linked from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) had been removed at some point in time, because it had a  "Happy99" infection.  I recently found a stack of backup CD roms made in 2002, found the infected file there, unzipped it, found and deleted the infected email, and rebuilt 1999.zip. My "Bitdefender" antivirus detects no infection in the new version of 1999.zip.  I will try to get it put back on the voynich.net site.

  
  I have to retract this.  The 1999.zip file had 2 problems: it contained a malware infection, and it had no Voynich content, but instead had correspondence on another crazy hobby topic of mine.

• RE: voynich dot net and its forum gone?

  Jim Reeds > 12-09-2025, 11:37 PM

  (13-08-2025, 10:20 PM)Jim Reeds Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (12-08-2025, 03:32 PM)Jim Reeds Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is maybe the wrong place to mention this, but: the file You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (linked from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) had been removed at some point in time, because it had a  "Happy99" infection.  I recently found a stack of backup CD roms made in 2002, found the infected file there, unzipped it, found and deleted the infected email, and rebuilt 1999.zip. My "Bitdefender" antivirus detects no infection in the new version of 1999.zip.  I will try to get it put back on the voynich.net site.

  
  I have to retract this.  The 1999.zip file had 2 problems: it contained a malware infection, and it had no Voynich content, but instead had correspondence on another crazy hobby topic of mine.

  
  I am happy to report that I can retract this retraction: I have found my original 1999 VMS email archive, and can supply a virus-free version. 
  
  Also, I found a stash of about 20,000 emails marked 'From owner-vms-list@voynich.net' from the years 2008-2013.
  I can dedupe them and arrange them into chronological order, if anyone wants.

• RE: voynich dot net and its forum gone?

  ReneZ > 13-09-2025, 03:00 AM

  I think that I can host them. I would need to know a ROM size estimate, and would have to rely on others to put them into a reasonable format. Plain text would be sufficient, even preferable.

• RE: voynich dot net and its forum gone?

  Jim Reeds > 13-09-2025, 03:47 AM

  (13-09-2025, 03:00 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think that I can host them. I would need to know a ROM size estimate, and would have to rely on others to put them into a reasonable format. Plain text would be sufficient, even preferable.

  
  The file sizes come to
  
  
  -rw-r--r--  1 jim  staff  4072773 Sep 12 22:10 2008/2008.zip
  -rw-r--r--  1 jim  staff  1860376 Sep 12 22:10 2009/2009.zip
  -rw-r--r--  1 jim  staff  1652901 Sep 12 22:10 2010/2010.zip
  -rw-r--r--  1 jim  staff  4171903 Sep 12 22:10 2011/2011.zip
  -rw-r--r--  1 jim  staff  5734207 Sep 12 22:10 2012/2012.zip
  -rw-r--r--  1 jim  staff   900169 Sep 12 22:10 2013/2013.zip
  
  Each zip file has per-month mbox format files with names like 2011.02.Feb.txt , with some email headers stripped out .

• RE: voynich dot net and its forum gone?

  Jim Reeds > 13-09-2025, 04:09 AM

  (12-09-2025, 11:37 PM)Jim Reeds Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (13-08-2025, 10:20 PM)Jim Reeds Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

  (12-08-2025, 03:32 PM)Jim Reeds Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is maybe the wrong place to mention this, but: the file You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (linked from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) had been removed at some point in time, because it had a  "Happy99" infection.  I recently found a stack of backup CD roms made in 2002, found the infected file there, unzipped it, found and deleted the infected email, and rebuilt 1999.zip. My "Bitdefender" antivirus detects no infection in the new version of 1999.zip.  I will try to get it put back on the voynich.net site.

  
  I have to retract this.  The 1999.zip file had 2 problems: it contained a malware infection, and it had no Voynich content, but instead had correspondence on another crazy hobby topic of mine.

  
  I am happy to report that I can retract this retraction: I have found my original 1999 VMS email archive, and can supply a virus-free version. 
  
  ...

  
  I attach the disinfected form of 1999.zip .  Ideally it should live with the other You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. files.

• RE: voynich dot net and its forum gone?

  Jorge_Stolfi > 13-09-2025, 08:55 AM

  (12-09-2025, 11:37 PM)Jim Reeds Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I am happy to report that I can retract this retraction: I have found my original 1999 VMS email archive, and can supply a virus-free version. I attach the disinfected form of 1999.zip .  Ideally it should live with the other You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. files.

  
  So, is there still any gap in the mailing list?  (As I wrote before, I have most of the messages since 1998, but scattered in a couple dozen mail folders, mixed with other stuff.  I am half way through extracting and sorting them.)
  
  All the best, --jorge

• RE: voynich dot net and its forum gone?

  ReneZ > Yesterday, 10:25 AM

  The size is no problem, so I can host these files, but again, I am not the most capable person when it comes to pre-processing them (splitting, cleaning up headers, removing E-mail addresses), so I hope to rely on someone else for that.
  
  I am trying to make certain that the general search function at my web site will not search in that area, but at the same time allow a separate search in this mail archive. If I run into trouble with that, I may ask for more advice...

• RE: voynich dot net and its forum gone?

  Jim Reeds > Yesterday, 04:37 PM

  (Yesterday, 10:25 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The size is no problem, so I can host these files, but again, I am not the most capable person when it comes to pre-processing them (splitting, cleaning up headers, removing E-mail addresses), so I hope to rely on someone else for that.
  
  ...

  
  I have removed what I think are all inessential headers, allowing  (I suppose) for the creation of a threaded collection like You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. .  As they stand, the files are as useful (or un-useful) as those in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. .
  
  Among the removed headers are those related to mail routing and virus scans.
  
  Figuring that anything posted to any voynich mailing list was in effect already in the public domain, I did not redact email addresses.  But if desired, I could replace all instances of addresses like jrscholar@paleography.brainyu.edu to jrscholar@XXX.edu , or according to some other scheme.

• RE: voynich dot net and its forum gone?

  Jim Reeds > Yesterday, 06:31 PM

  (13-09-2025, 08:55 AM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So, is there still any gap in the mailing list?  (As I wrote before, I have most of the messages since 1998, but scattered in a couple dozen mail folders, mixed with other stuff.  I am half way through extracting and sorting them.)

  
  As far as I know, there are still gaps in what's publicly visible.  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. has traffic from 2000-2005 ;  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. has traffic from 1991-2001 and I have traffic from 2008-2013 in search of a home.
  
  I have found it easy to chop unix-style mbox files into mh-style directories of files, one per message.  Then to discard each message file that lacks a first line saying something like "From owner-vms-list@voynich.net  Sun Mar  9 13:57:14 2008"
  or a line like "To: voynich@rand.org" and then reconcatenate the remaining files.
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