Koen G > 16-03-2016, 09:03 PM
-JKP- > 16-03-2016, 10:19 PM
(16-03-2016, 09:03 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I'm quite amazed at the results.
When you have some time, could you maybe have a look a You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.? It's badly faded, but the lines are still there. They are obscured by green that shines through from the other side though. I primitively traced the lines in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., but I wonder what you could get out of it. If this is too much work or too time consuming of course I understand
Oocephalus > 17-03-2016, 12:58 AM
Quote:That line of dots is strongly suggestive of a salamander or newt, “stellio” (“starred”) in Latin.Sorry for the nitpicking, but did "stellio" ever mean a salamander or newt? You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. says that it was used to mean a gecko or agama, with some confusion between the animals. Of course they might have been confused with salamanders as well, which were also considered a kind of lizard back then.
MarcoP > 17-03-2016, 08:39 AM
(17-03-2016, 12:58 AM)Oocephalus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.MarcoP:
Quote:That line of dots is strongly suggestive of a salamander or newt, “stellio” (“starred”) in Latin.Sorry for the nitpicking, but did "stellio" ever mean a salamander or newt? You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. says that it was used to mean a gecko or agama, with some confusion between the animals. Of course they might have been confused with salamanders as well, which were also considered a kind of lizard back then.
As for the line of dots on the back, this is also seen in the VMS scorpio, although it is difficult to see under the green paint (see You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. about this). They don't seem to be the same animal, though.
Koen G > 17-03-2016, 10:55 AM
MarcoP > 17-03-2016, 06:29 PM
Oocephalus > 17-03-2016, 07:12 PM
MarcoP > 18-03-2016, 11:13 AM
(17-03-2016, 07:12 PM)Oocephalus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.MarcoP: Thanks! somehow I missed the reference to scorpions in Henle's paper. This would explain the row of dots on the VM Scorpio's back. However, I'm not sure why anyone would think that the stellio was a scorpion. Pliny says that "in figure it (the stellio) strongly resembles the common lizard". I've also found that Galenus claimed the stellio could hypnotize the scorpion by just looking at it, showing that he thought of them as two different animals.
So probably this was part of the confusion between scorpions and lizards as seen in many zodiac images.
Koen G > 18-03-2016, 05:25 PM