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RE: Solutions [discussion thread - moved]
davidd > 11-05-2025, 09:02 PM
To mirror (parody) some of the solvers narcissism: I think daiin means David and the whole voynich is a love song to somebody named just like me, to my name
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RE: Solutions [discussion thread - moved]
Koen G > 11-05-2025, 09:03 PM
It looks like that went easier than I thought! Geoffrey's "so" isn't so bad for a frequent word, maybe he'd pass the daiin test
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RE: Solutions [discussion thread - moved]
oshfdk > 11-05-2025, 09:07 PM
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RE: Solutions [discussion thread - moved]
davidd > 11-05-2025, 09:22 PM
Also "continuously" as a verb modifier to make it a continuing participle, like adding "-ing" to a verb stem in english seems a reasonable thing that could be the most frequent word. -
RE: Solutions [discussion thread - moved]
oshfdk > 11-05-2025, 09:48 PM
(11-05-2025, 09:22 PM)davidd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Also "continuously" as a verb modifier to make it a continuing participle, like adding "-ing" to a verb stem in english seems a reasonable thing that could be the most frequent word.
But it's not only frequent, it also can be repeated.
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RE: Solutions [discussion thread - moved]
davidd > 11-05-2025, 10:16 PM
(11-05-2025, 09:48 PM)oshfdk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(11-05-2025, 09:22 PM)davidd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Also "continuously" as a verb modifier to make it a continuing participle, like adding "-ing" to a verb stem in english seems a reasonable thing that could be the most frequent word.
But it's not only frequent, it also can be repeated.
hopefully one day we will know. But to launch a possible theory: the text has no interpunction, so it could just be that that stuff happens where one sentence ends and another begins. It also depends on if you think whether a one glyph change to a vord changes the entire meaning or is just a variation of the same vord. I think in most languages changing one letter can change the entire meaning of a word, so therefor i assume the same for vonichese -
RE: Solutions [discussion thread - moved]
Aga Tentakulus > 13-05-2025, 07:19 PM
daiin. Which one is it now?
aiin, d'aiin or daiin. Everything works.
Even aiin d'aiin daiin.
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RE: Solutions [discussion thread - moved]
Eiríkur > 27-05-2025, 03:38 AM
:-) But, but, but.... I think we know that it's not a different alphabet for a human language. I make that as a very conservative statement. Asking solvers to translate a word accepts the mental model that this is solvable in a grade-school sense with alphabets and dictionaries. I wish I could, somehow, contribute to getting Critical Thinking into primary education.
One could ask "Who was Prescott Currier?" "Who was Mary D'Imperio?"
"What things must be accounted for in any solution?" D'Imperio's "Elegant Enigma" section 4.4.1 is a good starter.
"What is a Grove word?" Extra credit: "What is a Neal key?"
I harranged on the phone tonight by a smart friend who thinks I should be applying GPT-LLM to perform image analysis on the ms. and get it solved right now! People are so resistant to actually taking a look at the problem. We don't have an OCR (optical character recognition) problem. Smart people with sharp eyes have created transliteration files.