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RE: Full Voynich Decode
Antonio García Jiménez > 29-04-2025, 09:14 PM
Tavie, if you relate my theory about the Voynich with this one that just appeared, you have not understood mine, despite the fact that I have been expounding it for seven years. In that theory, glyphs are replaced by words or concepts. In mine, there are no words at all; glyphs are iconic symbols.
In this, as in many other theories, its defenders fill their ideas with verbose rhetoric that only serves to obscure rather than clarify what they propose. I'm very direct and clear. I'm a little old for those sleight-of-hand tricks. -
RE: Full Voynich Decode
nablator > 29-04-2025, 09:17 PM
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RE: Full Voynich Decode
Antonio García Jiménez > 30-04-2025, 07:18 AM
Don't split hairs. My theory has nothing to do with language. It's simply outside the box. -
RE: Full Voynich Decode
Koen G > 30-04-2025, 07:47 AM
Let's stay on topic, people. Does anyone have any non-joke comments that may be useful to Kristine? -
RE: Full Voynich Decode
oshfdk > 30-04-2025, 08:08 AM
(30-04-2025, 07:47 AM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Let's stay on topic, people. Does anyone have any non-joke comments that may be useful to Kristine?
For me, the best showcase of Kristine's model (or other similar models that assign semantics to characters or character combinations) would be deciphering some of the short labels, located next to images, and explaining the meaning of these labels in the context of the images. For example, the labels in the following collection of snippets, are they related to the images? How exactly?
Given this is not a large amount of text, this task should be relatively easy.
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RE: Full Decode Refinement
Rafal > 01-05-2025, 01:11 PM
Quote:Kris - I've added your solution as "Logographic/visual code" to the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. Please let me know if you'd prefer it to be described with a different label.
Personally I think this description suits well. It reminded me of Rongorongo ( You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. )
The prevailing opinion is that rongorongo is not true writing but proto-writing, or even a more limited mnemonic device for genealogy, choreography, navigation, astronomy, or agriculture. For example, the Atlas of Languages states, "It was probably used as a memory aid or for decorative purposes, not for recording the Rapanui language of the islanders.
The main problem I see with it that that it makes all Voynich Manuscript to be about plants and lunar phases. No matter if we can see in pictures zodiac signs or bathing women, every text must be about moon phases and plants. Yet we don't have means to write the plants names down so we don't even know what plants we are talking about.
And we end with long passages like hour hour plant sun midnight sap sap sun hour celestial orbit day sun etc.
Frankly it doesn't make much sense unless we are mere mortals and the author was a madman misunderstood genius
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RE: Full Decode Refinement
asteckley > 01-05-2025, 02:35 PM
The neat thing about this solution is that you can replace any of the English terms and icons and the decipherment will make equally good sense! -
RE: Full Decode Refinement
nablator > 01-05-2025, 03:05 PM
(01-05-2025, 02:35 PM)asteckley Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The neat thing about this solution is that you can replace any of the English terms and icons and the decipherment will make equally good sense!
But it won't "align with", "match" and "reflect" famous herbals!
Oh, wait, it never did.