ReneZ > 02-01-2025, 12:37 PM
Mark Knowles > 02-01-2025, 12:42 PM
(02-01-2025, 11:06 AM)Scarecrow Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.As Lisa says in that post, VMS is a heroic and surprising survivor, as it defies the logic of social-, artistic- and scientific value, at least.Our whole discussion presupposes the existence of the Voynich manuscript and therefore it must have survived or we wouldn't be talking about it. So, its survival may be a complete fluke. Who knows what other interesting historical artifacts have been lost without a trace.
Was the survival of our hero planned and intentional - choosing parchment, building a network of sponsors, owners and supporters through the history, or just a coincidence.
Mark Knowles > 02-01-2025, 12:48 PM
(02-01-2025, 12:37 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Wars, fires, floods, warm/humid environments do not care about the value (true or perceived) of manuscripts...But some manuscripts may have been simply discarded by their owners or not cared for and left to rot.
Mark Knowles > 02-01-2025, 12:52 PM
Jorge_Stolfi > 27-06-2025, 03:51 PM
(02-01-2025, 08:23 AM)Scarecrow Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It is estimated that scientific manuscripts like herbals, medicine, and other natural sciences, but also alchemy, had a moderate chance of surviving. They were valuable for learning and passed around among scholars and healers. Their survival rate is better than letters, manuals and stories.but less than religious matter. So while 10% is general estimate, class survival rates can differ quite a bit.Sound plausible! IIRC, part of John Dee's reports of conversations with "angels" (through a crystal ball, mediated by Edward Kelley) were used by the finder's cook to start the fire in the stove.
bi3mw > 27-06-2025, 04:36 PM
kckluge > 27-06-2025, 06:38 PM
(02-01-2025, 12:42 PM)Mark Knowles Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(02-01-2025, 11:06 AM)Scarecrow Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.As Lisa says in that post, VMS is a heroic and surprising survivor, as it defies the logic of social-, artistic- and scientific value, at least.Our whole discussion presupposes the existence of the Voynich manuscript and therefore it must have survived or we wouldn't be talking about it. So, its survival may be a complete fluke. Who knows what other interesting historical artifacts have been lost without a trace.
Was the survival of our hero planned and intentional - choosing parchment, building a network of sponsors, owners and supporters through the history, or just a coincidence.
countingtls > 27-06-2025, 07:27 PM