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A commercial project aimed at women from high society
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A commercial project aimed at women from high society
amelkin > 04-05-2024, 03:34 PM
In the 15th century in Upper Bavaria, something unusual was happening in high circles. The unfortunate medieval Bavarian duchesses were forced to annually bring an heir to the duke, turning into a "maternity machine". Their life could have become unbearable if not for one circumstance. The court physician Johannes Hartlieb, together with other court specialists, developed a commercial project aimed at women from high society - a series of "Voynich Manuscripts" - sophisticated hoaxes. These manuscripts did not use a cipher, but an imitation of a cipher, and the five pieces of the extant manuscript differ from each other lexically, and this clearly indicates that there were several manuscripts, and they were used as a sales tool. Lacking sufficient education in the field of astrology, alchemy and medicine, the duchesses nevertheless became interested in sessions of white magic, for which strange manuscripts were ideally suited. For ladies it was great entertainment, and for court doctors, balneologists, herbalists, advisers, writers and poets it was a source of good income. The duchesses, who conducted sessions of white magic in various Bavarian castles, predicted the fate of the ladies and gave recommendations on how to achieve "happiness", and the doctors and other specialists, for an appropriate fee, wrote out prescriptions and referrals, gave advices, composed "magic" poems, compiled individual horoscopes, etc. And now, 600 years after it was written, the Voynich Manuscript continues to bring income for scientists, publishers, filmmakers, bloggers, etc. I have identified the circle of possible authors of the Voynich Manuscript and its "victims". In the near future I will find evidence of the correctness of my theory. It is a pity that many castles and documents no longer exist. -
RE: A commercial project aimed at women from high society
amelkin > 05-05-2024, 07:09 PM
Evidences:
1. 5 parts were written by different people (Lisa Fagin Davis (2022, 2023))
2. 2 diagrams were duplicated by different people (f70v1, f71r, f71v, f72r) -
RE: A commercial project aimed at women from high society
amelkin > 07-05-2024, 09:03 PM
2 duplicates of circular diagrams "Aberil" and "May" ( You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. vs You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. vs f72r1 ( You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. ) ) were made by 2 different people. They differ syntactically and stylistically and very likely belong to two different versions of the Voynich Manuscript. What is the point of duplicating diagrams within one version of the manuscript? -
RE: A commercial project aimed at women from high society
pjburkshire > 07-05-2024, 09:27 PM
(07-05-2024, 09:03 PM)amelkin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.2 duplicates of circular diagrams "Aberil" and "May" ( You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. vs You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. vs f72r1 ( You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. ) ) were made by 2 different people. They differ syntactically and stylistically and very likely belong to two different versions of the Voynich Manuscript. What is the point of duplicating diagrams within one version of the manuscript?
They had more to say than would fit on one. -
RE: A commercial project aimed at women from high society
RobGea > 08-05-2024, 04:42 PM
(07-05-2024, 09:03 PM)amelkin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.What is the point of duplicating diagrams within one version of the manuscript?
You might be right, but considering the other 8 zodiac folios have approx. 30 nymphs each
and then Aries has 2 folios of 15 nymphs (2x15 =30), same for Taurus.
Then the question becomes why has Aries + Taurus been split into 2 ?
And pjburkshire's answer is totally valid.
P.S if they (2xAries, 2xTaurus) differ both stylistically and semantically then they are not duplicates, but thats just me being pedantic.
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RE: A commercial project aimed at women from high society
amelkin > 09-05-2024, 08:43 AM
(07-05-2024, 09:27 PM)pjburkshire Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.They had more to say than would fit on one.
(08-05-2024, 04:42 PM)RobGea Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You might be right, but considering the other 8 zodiac folios have approx. 30 nymphs each
and then Aries has 2 folios of 15 nymphs (2x15 =30), same for Taurus.
Then the question becomes why has Aries + Taurus been split into 2 ?
And pjburkshire's answer is totally valid.
P.S if they (2xAries, 2xTaurus) differ both stylistically and semantically then they are not duplicates, but thats just me being pedantic. :)
In this case, these paired diagrams would be on the same page and would be executed in the same style. -
RE: A commercial project aimed at women from high society
pjburkshire > 09-05-2024, 10:19 AM
(09-05-2024, 08:43 AM)amelkin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In this case, these paired diagrams would be on the same page and would be executed in the same style.
So what are you saying? Are you saying the entire Voynich Manuscript is an A.I. generated hoax? Are you saying there is no book at all? -
RE: A commercial project aimed at women from high society
amelkin > 09-05-2024, 05:00 PM
(09-05-2024, 10:19 AM)pjburkshire Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So what are you saying? Are you saying the entire Voynich Manuscript is an A.I. generated hoax? Are you saying there is no book at all?
This is an imitation of a fortune-telling book for white magic sessions in closed communities of noble women. -
RE: A commercial project aimed at women from high society
nablator > 09-05-2024, 05:24 PM
(09-05-2024, 05:00 PM)amelkin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is an imitation of a fortune-telling book for white magic sessions in closed communities of noble women.
No it's not. Writing it in bold does not make it more credible. As evidence-less "theories" go these days, this is one of the weakest. Who would use a herbal (mostly) for magic and fortune telling instead of a proper astrology book or magic grimoire? Astrology and magic had internal logic and well established traditions, they're not like, pick any book, tell any kind of mumbo-jumbo. Is your (totally wrong) idea that noble women were so uneducated that they would do anything, no matter how silly? -
RE: A commercial project aimed at women from high society
amelkin > 09-05-2024, 08:58 PM
(09-05-2024, 05:24 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.No it's not. Writing it in bold does not make it more credible. As evidence-less "theories" go these days, this is one of the weakest. Who would use a herbal (mostly) for magic and fortune telling instead of a proper astrology book or magic grimoire? Astrology and magic had internal logic and well established traditions, they're not like, pick any book, tell any kind of mumbo-jumbo. Is your (totally wrong) idea that noble women were so uneducated that they would do anything, no matter how silly?
Education in the field of magic (in particular astrology and medical magic) was the prerogative of men. Therefore, they "helped" noble ladies conduct white magic sessions. The Voynich Manuscripts gave these sessions a special charm, possessing a kind of magical power. Other books were also used, such as "Chiromantie" by Johannes Hartlieb, brought as gifts to duchesses.