Koen G > 14-03-2024, 09:31 PM
MarcoP > 14-03-2024, 10:12 PM
Quote:cases also correlate pretty well with specific glyph adjacencies -- that is, whenever a common-ish "vord" contains certain glyphs next to each other, it will typically be found with a break between them, without a break between them, and with an ambiguous sort-of-break between them, all in loosely consistent ratios.
Quote:the glyph pairs with the highest incidences of unexpected behavior also tend to have relatively high proportions of ambiguous word breaks ... there appears to be a correlation between ambiguous spacing and inconsistent spacing between given glyph pairs
ReneZ > 15-03-2024, 12:53 AM
(14-03-2024, 09:31 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Right. What I'm getting at is that, taken over the whole manuscript, the amount of text is so large that things tend to cancel each other out to a surprising degree. You might notice that some of the stats you are looking at don't change all that much between a transliteration with and one without uncertain spaces.
nablator > 15-03-2024, 06:04 PM
(13-03-2024, 08:37 PM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You of all people should know this.
Do I now write "le xxx" or "l'xxx"?
Sometimes you have to listen to your instincts.
(14-03-2024, 09:31 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Right. What I'm getting at is that, taken over the whole manuscript, the amount of text is so large that things tend to cancel each other out to a surprising degree. You might notice that some of the stats you are looking at don't change all that much between a transliteration with and one without uncertain spaces.
Aga Tentakulus > 15-03-2024, 09:49 PM
(15-03-2024, 06:04 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.An "honest" transliteration should be about what is, not what you want it to be.
'Get your facts first, and then you can distort 'em as much as you please.' -Mark Twain
In the 15th century they didn't have have a choice between le and l' ; when xxx started with a vowel the apostrophe was not written. It is true that spaces were often omitted in manuscripts: when you know the language, it's easy to locate missing spaces, just as in spoken language.
Anton > 16-03-2024, 02:37 PM
Aga Tentakulus > 16-03-2024, 08:13 PM
nablator > 18-03-2024, 01:50 PM
(16-03-2024, 02:37 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.My personal approach has been my own subjective judgement on a case-by-case basis taking into account the surrounding context - how loose or how tight are the surrounding glyphs placed. This means that I would avoid reading a space even if that yields something contrary to the "usual" Voynichese morphology.
MarcoP > 19-03-2024, 09:49 AM