boldfrontiers > 12-02-2024, 01:07 PM
(12-02-2024, 12:19 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.About the "potential ‘mn’ initials", they are quire numbers, see: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
About the "mysterious Voynich characters echoed in Nostradamus’ handwriting" I would guess the one that looks like Sh is a di, there is even a dot on the i.
nablator > 12-02-2024, 01:22 PM
(12-02-2024, 12:42 PM)boldfrontiers Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Are you accusing him of selling cheap paper imitation? I don't know if you realize it, but that's a serious accusation to make.
Quote:Modern imitation vellum is made from plasticized rag cotton or fibers from interior tree bark.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Quote:I don't really understand why you differentiate between sizes of vellum sheets either. From what I've seen, the Voynich Manuscript is actually quite small. Yes, some foldout pages are larger. So what?
boldfrontiers > 12-02-2024, 04:43 PM
(12-02-2024, 01:22 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(12-02-2024, 12:42 PM)boldfrontiers Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Are you accusing him of selling cheap paper imitation? I don't know if you realize it, but that's a serious accusation to make.
You don't seem to realize that modern vellum is not at all the same material as medieval vellum. It's a fact that modern (paper) vellum imitates "real" vellum, the highest quality of parchment. And yes, paper is cheaper to produce, that's why paper replaced parchment.
Quote:Modern imitation vellum is made from plasticized rag cotton or fibers from interior tree bark.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Quote:I don't really understand why you differentiate between sizes of vellum sheets either. From what I've seen, the Voynich Manuscript is actually quite small. Yes, some foldout pages are larger. So what?
Larger = rarer = not sourced from blank pages of books (these are relatively common).
Another cheap way to get vellum is to remove ink and make a palimpsest, but the Voynich is not one of these either.
tavie > 12-02-2024, 06:14 PM
(12-02-2024, 04:43 PM)boldfrontiers Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You're not answering my question. Are you accusing the Ebayer in question of selling cheap paper imitation? Or modern imitation vellum as you now call it? I want a yes or no answer. You should also know that whatever is written here is public record. I would advise caution if you want to accuse someone of selling cheap paper imitation, especially as that Ebayer has a solid reputation. I'm no expert in law, but I don't think you want to get involved in a lawsuit that involves libel, slander, or defamation. So I would caution you to think twice about what your answer to this specific question is.
Ruby Novacna > 12-02-2024, 08:18 PM
RobGea > 12-02-2024, 09:14 PM
Quote:I invite you to test my findingsNo testing, just some observations:
R. Sale > 12-02-2024, 10:37 PM
ReneZ > 13-02-2024, 01:06 AM
(12-02-2024, 11:51 AM)boldfrontiers Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If you're wondering why Nostradamus would acquire old vellum in particular, I would ask you to look at his name first. His surname given to him at birth was de Nostredame. He stylized it later on as Nostradamus to sound more Latin, and arguably, more sophisticated. He also referenced Antiquity a lot in his writings. To me it makes perfect sense why he would source old vellum to write the Voynich Manuscript. He wanted to make it look classic. Haven't you ever purchased specialty paper like parchment for printing important documents on? I know I do, especially when it comes to printing out Certificates of Authenticity for my own photos & artwork.
asteckley > 13-02-2024, 01:21 AM
(12-02-2024, 12:02 AM)boldfrontiers Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. If you want, I can even put my money where my mouth is and bet on it, just as long as it is done legally and above board.
nablator > 13-02-2024, 10:35 AM
(12-02-2024, 12:19 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.About the "mysterious Voynich characters echoed in Nostradamus’ handwriting" I would guess the one that looks like Sh is a di, there is even a dot on the i.The mysterious ligature is definitely "di". The word is "codicillant".