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- The containers in the Pharma section
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RE: The containers in the Pharma section
-JKP- > 31-08-2020, 03:39 PM
I try very hard to avoid cherry-picking words in the VMS because I know one-to-one substitution doesn't generalize and doesn't fit the statistical reality of the VMS text.
But because so many of the glyphs are Latin, it's hard to stop my brain from reading them sometimes. Like this one. In Latin (not only the glyphs but the language), is written "odorus" (it is typically written odory in Latin using the y char as an abbreviation for "us"). It's such a perfect fit with incense:
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RE: The containers in the Pharma section
Koen G > 05-10-2020, 10:17 PM
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RE: The containers in the Pharma section
arca_libraria > 26-10-2020, 11:38 PM
While I was looking for something else, I came across some interesting drawings of Jewish temple implements. The MS is Levi ben Gershon's Commentary on the Pentateuch and the manuscript is from Avignon and has been precisely dated to 1429. The whole MS (BL Add 14759) has been You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and there's a You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. The manuscript is entirely in Hebrew and it's huge, although the catalogue description indicates that the only figurative illustrations are on folios 1–3. I'm not sure whether the illustrations are by the same scribe or are of precisely the same date as the rest of the manuscript, but in my judgement, they could be from the 1429 and I would be surprised if they were added more than 50 years after the main text based on the figural style.
Note that obviously Hebrew manuscripts are read right-to-left, and so semitic-language books generally start "at the back" from the viewpoint of a non-semitic reader, but the BL has foliated this manuscript like a non-semitic manuscript. All of the folio numbers that I have used correspond to what is on the BL's website. I've posted an image (f. 3r) of an elaborate cup or censer below (I can't read Hebrew unfortunately), but there's an interesting drawing (f. 1v) of the Sacrifice of Isaac that has some artistic features that are reminiscent of the VMS as well.
![[Image: d40037-40.jpg]](http://www.bl.uk/IllImages/BLCD/mid/d400/d40037-40.jpg)
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RE: The containers in the Pharma section
DONJCH > 27-10-2020, 08:09 AM
Nice! I think the Jewish examples of accoutrements are perhaps the best match for some of the VM containers.
In these examples I particularly like the "feet" which are missing in many of the proposed parallels.
One thing I noticed recently though, correct me if I am wrong, but - there does not seem to be an actual chalice as such in the VM collection. I find that odd.