Koen G > 18-05-2023, 01:50 PM
Helmut Winkler > 18-05-2023, 03:54 PM
Mark Knowles > 18-05-2023, 04:05 PM
(18-05-2023, 03:54 PM)Helmut Winkler Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I have heard from a reliable soure that there are similar mss./notes from the Papal chancery at Avignon
cvetkakocj@rogers.com > 18-05-2023, 07:13 PM
Helmut Winkler > 19-05-2023, 07:19 AM
(18-05-2023, 07:13 PM)cvetkakocj@rogers.com Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi, Helmut, did you know that during the Avignon papacy, the Charterhouse Seitz (Žiče, Slovenia) was temporary the grand priory of the Carthusian order, and that Stephen Macone from Siena was a general prior. During the Basel Council, the clergy in Slovenia was switching alliance, therefore it would be possible that some material from Slovenian charterhouses was tranfered to France, since only a fraction of the manuscripts from Seitz library (which at the time was the second largest library in Europe, after) has been preserved. It has been documented that Nicholas Kempf, a Carthusian prior from Strasbourg wrote over 30 books and only 5 have been found and preserved.
As for the VM code: I found and matched almost all VM glyphs to the Latin letters in the 15th century manuscripts, except the four tall glyphs, two of which are already correctly transcribed in EVA, and the other two are missing, just as the combination of Latin SU or german SW and ZW is missing.
The problem is not in transcription, but rather in the phonetic spelling in a language that existed before in an oral form, and in the lack of comparative material. It is possible that the Slovenian language was written down perhaps as a teaching tool for the priests, in the expectation of the Church reforms that would allow liturgy in vernacular languages, however after German princes reconciled with Rome, that hope vanished, the reformers were regarded as heretics, and their work disappered. Because of this pre-Reformation movement, Slovenian students were not allowed to study at Vienna and most of them went to study in Tubingen, where first Slovenian books were printed in 1550. Naturally, the German influence is in the writing convention and in vocabulary.
It would be interesting to know if a similar script could be found anywhere.
ReneZ > 19-05-2023, 08:50 AM
merrimacga > 12-08-2023, 06:39 AM
RobGea > 12-08-2023, 01:31 PM
Koen G > 12-08-2023, 03:22 PM
(12-08-2023, 06:39 AM)merrimacga Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.probably more inclined towards paganism rather than Christianity
Aga Tentakulus > 12-08-2023, 04:16 PM
(12-08-2023, 03:22 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.But there are also no farmers, fishermen, kings or queens (the crowned women cannot be literal queens since they are nude). No musicians, jesters, servants, warriors...