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  R. Sale > 25-02-2023, 09:21 PM

  There are three systems of numerical interpretation that can be applied to the VMs glyphs. The systems used are the Greek, Roman, and medieval numerical systems and their symbol sets. The location where this is seen is in VMs f57v, in the circular band known as the '4 by 17 symbol sequence', and is focused on the first five symbols in that sequence, which are known in EVA as o, l, d, r, and v.
  
  Beginning with the fifth symbol, the VMs glyph has the form of an inverted 'v'. In Greek this would be lambda. In the Roman interpretation it could also be a letter or a number written upside down. In the set of medieval numerical symbols as seen on Typus Arithmetica, this is the numeral for seven. While visual interpretations probably need to be seen as subjective, there is obviously reason to agree with these well-known possibilities. Still the question remains whether these symbols can be evaluated by subjective interpretations.
  
  So, the VMs provides further proof. In the VMs system, the first glyph is comparable to the letter omicron in the Greek alphabet. The presence of three intervening symbols between lambda and omicron is correct in the Greek system, as is the ability to read in either direction.
  
  Likewise, the second symbol in the VMs system is comparable to the numeral for four in the medieval system and the placement relationship between 4 and 7 shows the expected two spaces in the proper direction.
  
  Finally, in the Roman system, the fifth VMs symbol might be the Roman numeral for five, inverted and located in place of the *fifth* VMs glyph. Five in the fifth position.
  
  In each case, the visual interpretation of the VMs glyph is supported by a positional component. That is, each subjective, visual interpretation is supported by an objective, positional confirmation in the relevant system. All three systems of interpretation run along the same set of VMS glyphs. I believe this is a deliberate construction in need of further investigation - a puzzle in need of a solution.

• RE: Three numerical systems

  Ruby Novacna > 25-02-2023, 11:45 PM

  This is a good topic for discussion. 
  However it is not easy to follow your description without any pictures.

• RE: Three numerical systems

  R. Sale > 27-02-2023, 06:22 AM

  The Greek alphabet is widely available. VMs You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is in the ninja Folio Browser.
  
  Typus Arithmetica is the third image on this site.
  
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  The numbers on her dress are 2, 4, and 8, down the one side, and 3, 9, and 27 on the other - which demonstrates the symbols used for 4 and 7.
  
  Is something further needed to present the situation?

• RE: Three numerical systems

  Aga Tentakulus > 27-02-2023, 09:34 AM

  On the back of her dress she has the numbers 1, 4, 16, 64 and 1, 5, 25, 125.
  
  What are you getting at?

• RE: Three numerical systems

  R. Sale > 27-02-2023, 07:28 PM

  The purpose of the illustration is to show the structural form of the numerals '4' and '7' in their medieval representations. The first is an upward loop and the other is an inverted 'V'. These structural forms are the compared with the forms of the glyphs in the 4 x 17 symbol sequence of VMs f57v, specifically looking at the second symbol, EVA l, and the fifth symbol, EVA v, respectively.
  
  The comparison reveals strong similarity of form in each example. Nevertheless, the visual comparison of form tends toward being a subjective interpretation. In addition to this, the VMs sequence, beginning with EVA o, l, d, r, v, etc., can now be reinterpreted as _, 4, _, _, 7, where the two numbers are properly positioned in sequence (and direction).
  
  Correct placement, as such, is an objective phenomenon. It is not a comparison or an opinion. Proper placement is an irrefutable, objective confirmation of a strong subjective interpretation.
  
  Rinse and repeat with the Greek and Latin examples in the first posting.
  
  EVA:                  o,    l,    d,   r,   v            
  Greek:        omega,   _,   _,   _,  lambda     
  Roman:              _,   _,   _,   _,   5*           * = inverted          
  Medieval:            _,   4,   _,   _,   7          
  
  Each system of interpretation has its own positional confirmation. Can such a complex structure, in accord with historical examples, occur by accident? It seems unlikely to me. Can such structure be dismissed out of hand? That seems like a mistake.
  
  What does this tell us and how does it work? Do we have three disks on a cypher wheel? What about the "unused" glyphs from the sequence? Do they get replaced?  *** Lots of unanswered questions.
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