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  LisaFaginDavis > 10-01-2023, 01:59 PM

  My keynote from the Voynich2022 Conference has been posted here:
  
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  In addition to walking through my scribal attributions, which won't be new to some of you, I've laid out in the lecture my ideas for interpreting [p] as an abbreviation for [ke], and [f] as an abbreviation for [te]. I won't go into the argument here, since it's explained in great detail in the paper and recording, but I did want to let you all know that I have posted a version of the Rene's IVTFF EVA transcription that shows how the text would appear if the purported abbreviations were expanded. 
  
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  For example, the first word of the manuscript [fachys] becomes [teachys]. I'm not a linguist or a cryptologist, so I can't offer an opinion about how/if this proposal is plausible from those perspectives; my argument comes from a scribal and paleographical perspective. I would really love to see how this idea might impact the statistical work of those of you doing computational analyses of the text. Feel free to download the expanded version and work with it. Please let me know how this impacts your work, if at all, and if you find evidence to support or contradict this proposal. 
  
  Thank you!
  
  - Lisa

• RE: Gallows as abbreviations

  Aga Tentakulus > 10-01-2023, 05:02 PM

  As I understand it "shortcut" I don't see it as a shortcut.
  For me, an abbreviation would be, for example: PN, RIP, INRI..... and in German MfG (mit freundlichen Grüssen). (with kind regards).
  But I could imagine it as a combination or abbreviation.
  Now the question is how often this is combined with other parts of a word. It could also be an abbreviation at the back and front of the word. But what is in the middle of a word? Would an abbreviation even be appropriate here?
  That is something to think about.

• RE: Gallows as abbreviations

  nablator > 10-01-2023, 06:09 PM

  Maybe a related observation: there are a few gallows (mostly p and t) with a leg ending in a hook, like an e. A dozen or more.
  There are no extended EVA codes for them it seems, only @215 for e between the two legs of t.

• RE: Gallows as abbreviations

  Addsamuels > 26-02-2023, 10:36 PM

  This would also affect the combination Stolfi hard characters!
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  1: sh 
  2: ch
  3: cth 
  4: ckh 
  5: cph 
  6: cfh 
  
  ============
  The other 'hard characters' are C,E,F,P,H,K,T (cef hk pt, cef hong kong portugal, is how I remember them)
  but now they are reduced to SH, C, E, H, T

• RE: Gallows as abbreviations

  Addsamuels > 26-02-2023, 11:16 PM

  I think this is a goldmine, to be honest, and to be fair Lisa you have it explained convincingly with bigrams. It also halves the long Stolfi hard characters, although his list is not perfect as less common combinations are not present (TSH appears 180 times weakly on voynichese.com and 181 with my parser of ZL transcription).
  
  Also, I would love to get more information about the bigram SH, as s is soft, but SH can be a hard 'letter or bigram'.
  
  In addition a community lead effort on replacing the bloody gallows with speculative combinations could be helpful. 
  
  I always avoided the gallows and now they may be in reach
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