Searcher > 18-11-2022, 01:03 PM
Hermes777 > 19-11-2022, 10:10 AM
(18-11-2022, 01:03 PM)Searcher Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Dictionaries contain words in alphabetical sequence, so if the VMs is some kind of glossary or dictionary, it must contain absolutely similar sequential words at the beginning, at least, of a paragraph, but it doesn't. As for grammars, it seems to be possible.
This is a popular late medieval chant "Virgo Virginum":
Veni virgo virginum veni lumen luminum veni vena veniae
Veni salus hominum veni splendor ordinum caelestis militiae
Consolatrix inclita veni vide visita certantes in acie
Nos rege nos excita nos fove nos suscita de lacu miseriae
Veni Jesse virgula veni rosa primula rosa carens carie
Peccatorum vincula rumpe prece sedula praesentis familiae
Magne major maxima reple cordis intima caelesti temperie
Consolatrix optima esto nobis proxima rogans regem gloriae
Ut nos jungat superis dans nobis in dexteris post spem frui specie
Quae regina diceris miserere miseris virgo mater gratiae.
The firtst line is especially interesting with its repetitions:
Veni virgo virginum veni lumen luminum veni vena veniae
The part [ven] has been repeated here 5 times in the three different words (veni - come; vena - stream, vein; veniae - of grace), veni itself is repeated 3 times. As well, there are two word pairs with the same root: virgo virginum, lumen luminum. Also we can find such kinds of word pairs: carens carie, miserere miseris. The word "nos" is repeated 4 times in the fifth line. Also, I marked part "ma", as it is repeated quite often, for example, in the line "Magne major maxima reple cordis intima caelesti temperie" - 5 times. Dividing some words we can get such a string:
magne ma jor maxi ma reple cor dis inti ma.
What do you think about such chants, could they be a content of the VMs?
Playing with division of the words in the first line "Veni virgo virginum veni lumen luminum veni vena veniae" and substituting letters with the Voynich glyphs, I've got such a string:
ven ivir govir ginvm venil vmen lv minvm ven i vena ven iae
ched ochor tachor toiin chedol chked lch koiin ched o chedy ched og
Hermes777 > 21-11-2022, 06:09 AM
MarcoP > 21-11-2022, 10:24 AM
(19-11-2022, 10:10 AM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The possible poetic nature of the text tends to be overlooked.
Wladimir D > 21-11-2022, 11:37 AM
nablator > 21-11-2022, 01:18 PM
(21-11-2022, 11:37 AM)Wladimir D Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The following statistics would help us understand what the Gallows are (ordinary letters, some kind of key or something else).
We take all the words from a two-story bench with a gallows.
We remove the gallows from the second floor. And we calculate as a percentage how many received "normal" (existing) words.
Hermes777 > 26-11-2022, 10:29 AM
pfeaster > 02-12-2022, 02:10 PM
(26-11-2022, 10:29 AM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is an attempt to integrate two (or four!) different Vord Paradigms into a single model, a foolhardy attempt to forge a global template. It requires a dual paradigm. The two paradigms are:
CHOLDAIIN
QOKEEDY
(26-11-2022, 10:29 AM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Gallows glyphs are inserted into the SPACES of the CHOLDAIIN cycle.
Hermes777 > 03-12-2022, 10:22 AM