MarcoP > 15-11-2022, 11:36 AM
(14-11-2022, 10:14 PM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Here are some lines presented as lists in this manner, selected at random:
Stolfi Wrote:if we let X(w) stand for the boolean variable `word w has a gallows letter', and Y(w) mean `word w has one or more bench letters', then we find that the variables X and Y have uniform distributions over the text (50% `yes', 50% `no'), and are independent of each other --- even though gallows and benches occur next to each other in Voynichese words.
(14-11-2022, 10:14 PM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Recently, for instance, I encountered a study of word pairs by Mark Fincher: Word Pair Permutation Analysis of natural language samples and it’s value for characterizing the ‘Voynich Manuscript’. It is a study of structures between words and Fincher concludes from it:
‘Voynichese’ is not a natural language in it’s own right. If the VMs text is derived from a plaintext in a natural language, it must have undergone some disruption of word order.
But in fact what the study shows is that - in its word order - the text does not behave like running prose. The "disruption of word order" suspected by Fincher might simply be that the plaintext is a set of lists.
pfeaster > 15-11-2022, 04:27 PM
(14-11-2022, 10:14 PM)Hermes777 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is a further attempt to present lines of Voynich text in meaningful or at least suggestive ways. A slight detour from the matter of Vord Paradigms, but part of the same quest.
(13-11-2022, 05:04 PM)MarcoP Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(13-11-2022, 03:30 PM)pfeaster Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If we don't assume a priori what the glyph categories are, would there be any way to infer them reliably from the line patterns?This is something that Emma and I investigated in our You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. See in particular p.9 and 10. While we focussed on a specific phenomenon (how the last glyph of words tends to correlate with the first glyph of the following word), it is possible that the issue could be analysed in a more general way, including start-start correlations and end-end correlations. Torsten pointed out You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. that shows an interesting set of tables about this.
Hermes777 > 15-11-2022, 11:19 PM
Aga Tentakulus > 16-11-2022, 12:15 AM
ReneZ > 16-11-2022, 12:21 AM
(16-11-2022, 12:15 AM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Actually, there are 6 different gallows signs
nablator > 16-11-2022, 12:38 AM
Aga Tentakulus > 16-11-2022, 12:46 AM
ReneZ > 16-11-2022, 12:54 AM
(16-11-2022, 12:38 AM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(16-11-2022, 12:21 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Please note that Glen Claston also came up with 6 different gallows signs.
12 and I'm not counting the pedestalled ones:
EVA f: f u w
EVA k: h W û
EVA p: g j é
EVA t: k ò ô
Hermes777 > 16-11-2022, 03:56 AM
Aga Tentakulus > 16-11-2022, 04:11 AM