• How To Read The Voynich Manuscript
  • How To Read The Voynich Manuscript

    techilah@gmail.com > 03-10-2022, 04:03 AM

    Hey everyone. I believe I have figured out how to read the voynich manuscript. It uses numeronyms. Now if you notice on many pages of the voynich manuscript, numbers are combined with words. For example ccc89. There is no such thing as a language where words are combined with numbers. So I've been looking around and found out the voynich uses a form of abbreviation called numeronyms. In numeronyms, words are abbreviated with numbers to spell out a word. And you put the number together with the letter to pronounce it. In this case it is ccc89. Which would spell out the word cyan or kyan. The 9 begins with an n. Kyanos is ancient Greek for dark blue. In this case its cyanide poison. The green baths in the voynich might be poison. It may have always known how to make prussian blue from cyanide. Besides for it being discovered in the 1700s.
    Here's another numeronym I have found. Notice that on many voynich plant pages that cc08 is written. The cc08 in voynich stands for cat. The eight is the at sound. 
    Does anyone here know of any medeival books that use abbreviations like numeronyms from around the time of the voynich?
  • RE: How To Read The Voynich Manuscript

    Ruby Novacna > 03-10-2022, 08:59 PM

    (03-10-2022, 04:03 AM)techilah@gmail.com Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The 9 begins with an n. Kyanos is ancient Greek for dark blue.
    Which language would it be, Greek or English?
  • RE: How To Read The Voynich Manuscript

    techilah@gmail.com > 04-10-2022, 03:35 AM

    (03-10-2022, 08:59 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
    (03-10-2022, 04:03 AM)techilah@gmail.com Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The 9 begins with an n. Kyanos is ancient Greek for dark blue.
    Which language would it be, Greek or English?
    I would say it is English. Many English words today are derrived from Greek words. We say cyan as a color and it's the same in greek.
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    Aga Tentakulus > 04-10-2022, 07:02 AM

    (04-10-2022, 03:35 AM)techilah@gmail.com Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Many English words today are derrived from Greek words. We say cyan as a color and it's the same in greek.

    That would really be new to me.
    English developed from:
    Saxon / Germanic tribe
    Angles / Danish tribe
    Mostly Anglo-Saxon
    Celts / northern and southern tribes
    And Roman occupation / forms of Latin.

    Proper names are individual.
  • RE: How To Read The Voynich Manuscript

    Koen G > 04-10-2022, 07:15 AM

    Cyan entered English in the late 19th century:

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    Back to the drawing board!
  • RE: How To Read The Voynich Manuscript

    davidjackson > 04-10-2022, 05:58 PM

    I'm going to guess that numeronyms didn't exist before the information age. They make no sense in a handwritten non-technological age.
    Now, the occasional abbreviation, sure, scribes didn't mind them  Cool 
    Isopsephy or gematria? Help yourself.
    But no medieval scribe ever thought of writing dog as K9 or the turn of the millennium as Y2K. And I think the great vowel shift would have caused a lot of them to be unintelligible, even if they had. 

    Proof of that is that it's only modern English that seems to have them. In other languages, they tend to be notable dates rather than linguistic shorthand (Spanish are bloody terrible with them, they use them as linguistic shorthand for all sorts of important dates - just what you would expect from a Catholic nation obsessed by telling the passing of time using the Saint's calendar).
  • RE: How To Read The Voynich Manuscript

    techilah@gmail.com > 06-10-2022, 07:47 PM

    What if a young kid wrote the voynich? Maybe that's why the voynich might have informal writing.
    No an adult medieval scribe would never use numeronyms, but a young inexperienced author might.
    Perhaps it was a young girl that wrote it.
    The fact that no author is listed on voynich is a sign the writer is young. Because it's not professional to not include a name on book.
    Because every experienced adult author will put a book author name.
  • RE: How To Read The Voynich Manuscript

    davidjackson > 06-10-2022, 07:52 PM

    Maybe we lost the flyleaf which had all that info on it? Easy to mislay.
  • RE: How To Read The Voynich Manuscript

    Aga Tentakulus > 26-11-2022, 10:40 AM

       

    R.Sale had a nice link.

    How could the short words and the spacing in the VM be explained.
    What does it look like when I assign a meaning to the words, sentences without context.

    Is everything really so complicated or do we do it ourselves.